• getynge@lemmy.world
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      At the moment it’s looking like the oil propaganda is getting downvoted to all hell, rightfully so. I guess buying votes only works for the first 30 minutes of a posts existence if you are as widely hated as oil is.

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    I thought when electric vehicles got mainstream it would be a no brainier.

    0 to 60 in a few seconds? Don’t pay for gas? Don’t pay for maintenance? Roll your windows down on the road because no fumes or loud engines?

    Buuut the propaganda won. “Muh car go BRRRRR real loud”. Coal rolling and keying Teslas in the parking lot (before people realized musk is a dip shit)

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        If that were the reason they are opposed to electric cars, your comment would have some relevance. But it’s not. My point was they were trained to hate the concept because it isn’t COOL. Same people who did smoking ads

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          Fair comment, I see what you’re saying. I have a one track mind when cars are brought up so you’re comment just read as “EV’s good”.

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        Because they require a lot of energy to produce? But nowadays, that energy is increasingly renewably sourced?

        So how can you say EVs are still bad for the environment?

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          Thought it was the mining for elements to make the batteries. And then the disposal of said batteries. The fact rare earth metals and lots of parts get shipped all over the world during the manufacturing process.

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          Tires are a major pollutant. EV’s are heavier so this problem is compounded. We are nowhere near to developing an alternative to tires so this problem will likely continue for decades.

          Producing the batteries emits a lot of greenhouse gases, and seems to be responsible for localized pollution as well, but those effects are not quantified as easily as something like CO2 emissions. So yes, in conclusion EV’s seem to be slightly better for the environment than fossil fuel cars, especially the longer they are on the road.

          I welcome EV’s because of this and also because (this is a selfish reason) the pollution happens somewhere else, so every EV means less exhaust I’m breathing. But make no mistake, EV’s are not a solution to pollution (They might save the auto industry though ;) ).

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        I understand the optics angle but he is donated a significant amount of land. Most in North Carolina’s history.

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            That is a completely dismissive and false statement. He didn’t make any money donating land. I notice that people with little financial ability call everything a tax write off. Be better than that.

            He has been involved in preserving land for a long time. Whether you like epic or not, his record with conservation is excellent.

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              Are you a tax accountant or lawyer? Do you know the intricacies of the US tax code inside and out? If charity donations did nothing financially for the rich, why do they ALL do it every year? 0.1% did not get there being nice.

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                An explanation of how it financially benefits them would be helpful.

                The way I see it, charity with tax write-offs basically allow you to decide where your tax money goes at a small cost. If you pay it to the government, then they decide for you. So why not make the choice yourself and have that money fund things you actually care about?

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                  Deductions and write offs reduce the taxes you owe. If you donate the right amount at the right time you can offset massive profits that would be taxed away. No, there is not direct profit from charity, but it reduces the taxes that the US will come after you for, therefore allowing you to keep more of your little meaningless pieces of paper making you the 0.1%. Rich aren’t rich because they make a bunch of money, they are rich because they know how to hang on to it.

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      Still a billionaire pos, don’t defend those who would grind you down and sell you while laughing to the bank

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        He still fired 1000+ people weeks after saying the last round of layoffs were the last. BuT hE gAvE aWaY lAnD!