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Cameras that can detect noisy vehicles will be trialled in suburban Sydney in a bid to combat “hooning” and anti-social driving.
Independent MP Alex Greenwich has renewed his calls for the cameras that can capture an image of a vehicle as well as measure the amount of noise it produces.
Pockets of Sydney have been plagued by dangerous drivers in vehicles which create noise pollution and safety hazards for residents.
Greenwich said traffic noise was a problem for some inner-city residents around late night precincts, especially from vehicles deliberately modified for excessive noise.
He raised questions last month for the second time in the NSW Parliament about noise cameras, which he said could be more effective in cracking down on hoons given the constraints on police resources.
“While the emissions are unlawful, police must prioritise other crime and departmental testing requires setting up equipment on the side of the road,” he said.
Data from Revenue NSW shows there were 2498 modified vehicle and excessive noise fines in the 10 months to May 2023 - up from 2360 in the 12 months to June 2022.
There have also been 141 unnecessary noise or smoke fines that carry a $361 penalty handed out so far this financial year, up from 136 in 2021-22.
NSW environmental regulations set a noise limit of 90 decibels for most car exhausts and 94 decibels for motorbikes. Fines for vehicles that exceed this level by 5 decibels or less are $150, for more than 5 and less than 15 decibels it’s $200 and for more than 15 decibels it’s $600.
Noisy and illegally modified vehicles can also be reported to the NSW Environmental Protection Authority. The EPA can issue fines or deregister vehicles in more serious cases.
Bayside Council has been trying to tackle anti-social driving for some time. It’s Say No to Hooning! interactive map shows Brighton-le-Sands, Dolls Point and Sandringham on Botany Bay are hotspots for speeding and vehicle noise offences.
Small Business Minister Stephen Kamper said the NSW government would fulfil a pre-election promise to trial vehicle noise cameras in the Bayside local government area.
“The Environment Protection Authority has been tasked to oversee this trial, in conjunction with the local council and the police,” he said.
“Only a few other jurisdictions in the world currently use cameras that detect vehicle noise and the EPA is examining if this technology can work within NSW.”
Bayside councillor Heidi Lee Douglas supports the trialling of noise cameras, which she said had been used successfully in London.
“Reducing noise in our urban environments can help reduce anxiety and sleeplessness, so creating safer streets increases liveability and well-being,” she said.
Residents in other parts of Sydney are also affected by hooning and anti-social driving. Douglas set up a community group to campaign against hooning after she was almost hit by dangerous drivers twice in one week in 2020.
“I know it is still very bad in some areas, enough to make residents literally move away - that’s heartbreaking,” she said.
North Sydney mayor Zoe Baker wants the police and NSW government to determine whether noise cameras would deter car enthusiasts from gathering in harbourside suburbs such as Kirribilli and McMahons Point.
“Council would support any viable actions by NSW Police or the NSW Government to reduce the impact of noise on residential communities,” a North Sydney Council spokeswoman said.
Centre for Accident Research and Road Safety-Queensland research fellow Natalie Watson-Brown said research has only used noise cameras to evaluate railway vehicle rolling noise, road traffic barrier noise suppression, and truck compression brake noise.
“No research has examined the impact of this on hooning enforcement,” she said.
Mike Murphy and his husband knew they were moving to a noisy area when they purchased their Rushcutters Bay apartment in 2020.
“Soon after we moved in, we became very aware that the biggest problem in our traffic corridor is the massive number of unpoliced vehicles with modified exhaust pipes,” he said.
‘It is not at all unusual for the decibel level to exceed 100 while sitting on our outdoor patio, which is basically our living room.’Murphy said the hoon problem in the area has worsened since the couple moved and that he captures the noise levels on a decibel app on this smartphone.
“We have also become aware that these would be the same offenders in the morning who then come back in the evening on their way to and from work,” he said.
“It is not at all unusual for the decibel level to exceed 100 while sitting on our outdoor patio, which is basically our living room,” he said.
The couple moved from California, which is trialling noise cameras to deal with noisy vehicles, and believe the NSW government should consider using the devices to police Sydney hoons.
By Andrew Taylor and Nigel Gladstone June 25, 2023 — 5.00am
Noise pollution is the worst part of living in a city, personally. I cannot wait until everything is EV. Though I’ve still seen jackasses making them make loud motor noises with speakers. Fucking car culture my dudes
@badbrainstorm @usrtrv 100% add lawncare to that list. I have a new theory that lawn equipment ruins every nice day. In 10 to 20 yrs all of it will be electric. I already own all electric and have had it for 5 yrs and that all that Costco and most of the big box stores feature anymore.
In my state they are also giving out rebates for both professional and residental upgrades.Just fuck lawns in general. Waste a resources and space. Lawns should be opt-in rather than the default of every house. And if people do want one, they should use native and low maintenance vegetation.
@usrtrv 100% we’re down to less than half of what it was when we moved in an (less than 2 yrs ago) and hoping by next year the only grass left will be around the stepping stones to the (native) flower beds.
While I totally agree, they ain’t got shit on the volume of the whips! Though, I’m in LA, and I think it’s on another level here than probably anywhere else on earth.
I assume when you say whips you don’t mean the kind Indiana Jones uses? I am not familiar with the term being used for anything else that is noisy (though English is not my native language). Do you mind enlightening me?
Sure, it is a slang term that’s been known to go as far back as the early 1900’s s a slang for expensive cars. Then muscle cars whipped when they took off like to yeet these days. The term came back hard in hip hop culture in the nineties. So whips from the seventies on were often the more obnoxious, the better
@badbrainstorm @usrtrv I have bad news for you. EVs don’t really solve the car noise problem entirely. At highway speeds 60% of noise is from tires. Since EVs are still giant deadly chunks of metal moving through pedestrian space at lethal speeds, it’s useful to still hear them so they also often have speakers at low speeds. Then there’s horns and car alarms, nether of which are any different with EVs.
Even if EVs didn’t have most of the same problems as gas cars, there isn’t enough lithium on earth to replace gas cars. Even if there was, it would be necessary to roll out a whole nation wide infrastructure that’s just not realistic.
What you want is bike infrastructure and mass transit. Bikes and trains solve all of these problems and a lot of others, like the fact that cities aren’t walkable because half of the surface area has to be taken up by parking.
Thanks for splainin’ that for me, as if my ears can’t tell the difference when I’m walking down the fucking street everyday. 40% works for now. I’m down for turning all personal vehicles, and all the current infrastructure into a maglev type situation. You could just put in your destination, sit back and float to your destination. I know though, they’ll be the deafening sound of the whipping wind crashing off of the hard Detroit steel, and the chassis squealing like a bobcat as it whips down the freeway at Autobahn speeds right by my bedroom window.
I am also a daily Metro rider and huge supporter of better infrastructure for public transit, bike, and foot traffic. I know cars suck, but they aren’t going away anytime soon it appears, cause most people are too selfish and lazy to not have a personal vehicle, and have been spoiled
Luckily EVs are now superior products for the average person. The only remaining issue is price.
This would honestly improve the quality of life for so many people.
This is what I was thinking when it said the police have to prioritize other shit.
We could definitely use this kind of device around our city. We’re on a neighborhood non-arterial road and the number of assholes who think that getting negative attention by driving noisy cars/trucks/motorcycles around is a good idea is growing.
I know that they do it mostly because they don’t have a good way to get positive attention in life so they are motivated to purposefully annoy others just so they feel like we’re looking at them, so they’re more pitiable than criminal. That said, they can find other ways to annoy people to fulfill their needs.
Fuck cars, in direct proportion to how noisy they are plus a constant. Fuck silent cars a fair amount. Fuck noisy chavmobiles a lot.
Yes, please! Bring this shit to Canada, ASAP!
I used to live closer to the greater Toronto area. It was absolutely awful when The Fast and The Furious came out. Suddenly everyone was a tuner and everyone’s cars got louder. Tim’s parking lots all over became a meet up spot for people and their loud toys.
I lived close enough to a highway to hear those idiots race down the road late at night. Sometimes even on the street outside of my house because it had a nice S shape. Always woke up angry at 2-4 in the morning because of these selfish idiots. I would be happy to have a system like that over here too.
Yeah, I’m east of the city and we have extremely loud racers in the middle of the night.
My folks live closer to the city, and on my last visit I had to ask if Toronto was hosting a Formula 1 race because it was that constant!
hooning is the only type of car that should be allowed. no driving only hooning
