Fox News won’t bother mentioning this to their viewers.

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    They just don’t recognize that they’ll be crushed first when it rolls back. Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.

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      Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.

      That is beautiful and so very true.

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      I chuckled at the first commenter’s description of this as a boulder, but honestly the metaphor is pretty robust.

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      Yep. Just vote and don’t expect to get to the top. We’re never getting there. We just vote and vote and vote and then eventually we die, pushing the same boulder the entire time.

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        It’s far from ideal, but the problem is that we let it roll back every 4-8 years. If Democrats consistently won due to progressive policies, the candidates would inevitably become more progressive to capture more of the constituency. Disengagement and disenfranchisement consistently cause the boulder to fall, leading to the lack of overall progress.

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          And because that doesn’t happen, I just have to assume that Americans aren’t nearly as progressive as everybody on the Internet thinks they are.

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            Don’t underestimate the efficacy of voter disenfranchisement and disengagement. Republicans don’t need to prop up Trump. People who loath him will vote for him simply due to party loyalty. Discrediting Biden is all it takes for a win.

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              So everybody has to vote for someone they hate otherwise the other guy they hate will be in power.

              Great democracy everybody. Glad the wrong lizard didn’t win.

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                I’m not defending the system. I’m suggesting we use it until we have a better option.

                Whether you realize it or not, comments like that drive disengagement. It imparts hopelessness, which leads some to apathy.

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      They are getting crushed anyway.

      Even without “both sides”, the situation worldwide is fucked. And “neither side” is going to change much. Yes, one is worse, but the better side still offers a bandaid over a gushing wound.

      So I don’t really blame them.

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        We just need to help them understand the system better. I voted third-party when was young, and many of my friends abstained. That was due to a lack of education about our government. It’s not about swaying them to vote one way or the other, but just to help them understand how our system functions. After that, if they want to vote for Trump with conviction, so be it. At least it’ll be an informed decision.

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          I will say it: fuck the system.

          The sooner it’s gone, the better.

          It won’t be pretty, but this isn’t leading us to paradise either, we are killing the planet and can’t even take the foot off the gas.

          We need a hard reset, and it’s coming. In the best scenario, the system is taken down before the enviromental collapse.

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            Are you an accelerationist? Do you believe making things worse faster will lead to systemic change for the better?

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              I believe the current path is leading to a bad ending, guaranteed.

              And all I’m saying is that I don’t blame young people who may think other options might lead to something better.

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                Anyone who believes there are more than two choices in this election was poorly educated on American democracy. I know I was when I voted Green Party at 20 years old. If I can help educate those that are as ill-informed as I was, I feel it’s my duty. After that, the choice is theirs.

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                  The whole point I’m trying to make is that the system doesn’t work, voting lesser of two evils never helped in any meaningful way.

                  We need to stop capitalism, or we will all die, or at the very least suffer greatly.

                  That’s the whole point.

                  I’m not from the US, so I can’t vote for either side anyway, but we are all fucked. I watch the children and feel sorry for letting them down. They will not grow up into a world of peace and prosperity, only desolation and dystopia.

                  So while yes, Orange man very bad, the system will kill us anyway. Fascism will take your country, but capitalism took our entire planet.