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A horrifying waste of lives. Fuck the entire West for encouraging this slaughter.
With that said, I have a hard time believing that Russia will really ‘win’ this war. Even if they take the lands they are liberating, Ukraine promises to be a failed rump state, a playground for CIA and other western terrorists, Nazi’s with nothing to lose. I can easily imagine the terrorism that will take place ‘post-war’, with lots of bombings and massacres all over the world. Ukraine is the next Afghanistan, and the whole world will cry out in pain as the Banderites unleash their bloody dreams.
I’m not usually a doomer, but the simple facts I see point me toward a never-ending insurgency, with endless Western backing. And of course, the blow back that comes as well…
I think it was established pretty early on that Ukraine being a failed state is, for all intents and purposes, a win for Russia. It’s preferable to them being a NATO member at least.
I guess my point is that I fail to see to much of a difference. A failed state can still be a NATO springboard (see: Libya). Even if this ends in some kind of treaty, how long until Moscow is back in the same spot again?
A treaty just turns open war into cladestine operations. The west has no intention of ending the war.
Once every Ukrainian is dead, it’s time to send in boots on the ground…for FREEDUMB!!!
I for one am shocked to hear that the obviously superior forces are still winning the same way they have been since the start
I had an acquaintance in real life tell me Russians were resorting to grabbing old Mosins out of museums to arm their soldiers in 2022
It was plucky when Ukraine mounted a maxim gun on a convertible BMW or whatever tho.
I’ve heard that about Mosins as well, with the sole proof being a single photo of an irregular holding a sniper Mosin, which is of course still a perfectly valid weapon to use even in 202x
I’ve also seen this claim made baselessly about T-34s, as if Russia somehow has any functional combat ready T-34s left since 1960
Russia pulling T-34s out of a giant vat of cosmoline like a mammoth sucked into a tar pit but in reverse
I had a…person I knew, tell me in the summer of 2022 how he was now allowed to be racist against all russians and solemnly stating how russians only know how to do mass assaults with all the men and it didnt work for them this time just like it didnt work during the winter war. He was an insufferable redditor so I’m sure he thinks that the ukrainean casualty numbers for russians are accurate
Another person told me everything that happened in Ukraine since 2014 is good because even dying in a war is preferrable to living under a Russian puppet government like in Belarus
finnish people are certifiably not okay
So I assume that they’re going to find a way to die if Trump wins again right?
This person you knew should probably look up who won the winter war.
Look, buddy. The Winter War and Continuation War are propagandized to hell and back in Finland. It’s like 50% of our national character, that we murdered so many soviets that we actually basically won. I remember being really weirded out when I first heard that we lost the war, because none of our teaching or documentaries or anything actually just say how badly we ate shit.
That’s a ridiculous claim considering the MASSIVE back stock of AKs Russia has. Seriously I could buy them dusting off older AK from an old Soviet warehouse but, museum Mosins? The fuck?
there are over twice the number of kalashnikovs out there than all mosin nagants ever made lol
Militaristic world superpower has more firearms, tech, and manpower than relatively small country??? Who knew
I am entetnally frustrated that when talking to a Ukraine supporter they cannot tell me one good thing about Ukraine that is with fighting for. Russia sucks, but it taking over Ukraine would be an upgrade
It’s so surreal to see how libs continue bleating about western values, democracy, etc. while Ukraine has objectively become a dictatorship at this point.
“but they’ve been forced to do so because of the war started by the evil Rooskies”
Amusingly the same logic is now being applied in order to cut back on human rights in Europe as well. Measures have to be taken to protect the fragile and naive public from evil Russian propaganda.
We’re good because we’re not THEM, nevermind that we’re doing all the shit that we say makes them evil and inhuman, we have to do it because otherwise THEY would win, and they would do all the things we’re doing, which we have to do to stop them from doing all the things we’re doing, which we have to do to stop them from doing all the things we’re doing, which we have to do to stop them from doing all the things we’re doing, which we have to do to sto
Yep, Russian news is basically censored across the continent, and travel sanctions effectively mean you can’t meet any Russians in person either.
Just in case we see them as actual human beings or something.
the crazy part is how easily this stuff became normalized
We’re fighting for democracy, how dare you suggest we hold elections, you will be locked up until you acknowledge the democratic nature of our glorious nation.
Russia is doing this with nothing but shovels. Imagine what will happen if Russians invent Muskets.
