This guy is a real piece of shit
Genuinely no idea who he is beyond -
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Is a complete dick
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Looks like egg
Same. Trying to keep it that way
Feminists and libtards hate his guts, he must be onto something there.
Are you defending him? Please explain
Don’t know much about him, I first learned when the feminazis were fuming about him.
Ah I see. You need to get some updated insults it seems
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Subscriptions to their online groups, the War Room and Hustler’s University, appear to bring the brothers around $5m a month in membership fees, prosecutors say.
This is sad. Horrible people spawning more horrible people.
It is a problem that the left needs to find its own way of responding to. Right now there are a lot of young disillusioned boys who are being left behind by society. They latch onto these radical right wing ideals/grifters who tell them that they can make all their dreams real if they’ll buy our memberships and treat people this and that way. Our society is changing and we need some way to help those who are left behind or we will continue to see an increase in radicalized young men!
Jesus, that’s so depressing. People just want to belong to something, but seeing them find a home somewhere like that makes me feel so sad.
The content of the full text of this article is frankly appalling.
And their defence still consists of playground bully levels of “nuh uh, no I didn’t”.
This is what makes it so much worse to stomach. These two are just bullies, with zero empathy, zero remorse and without the emotional intelligence to even begin to think about what they have done to other people. It’s appalling to think that there are people out there who are so incapable of recognising that other people have lives too and that what they have done has destroyed many people. I genuinely hope they are completely crushed by this trial, though sadly I can’t help but feel that he’s going to dodge any real form of punishment. Reactionary, backwards politics and culture needs people like the Tates to continue to perpetuate their never ending hierarchy of suffering, and I can imagine them continuing to get bankrolled so that they can pedal their toxic influence even after being so publicly shamed.
I couldn’t finish it. Really dreadful.
Same. Deeply sickening to think what they put those women through.
Should probably include a content warning on this one.
It does.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The 300 pages of reported testimony and evidence seen by the BBC provide a rare glimpse inside the pre-trial prosecution case against Andrew Tate, whose controversial views and online influence have sparked warnings from teachers, police and rights groups.
Included in the summary is a reproduced text message in which Mr Tate appears to claim leadership of the adult content business that prosecutors say was a human trafficking ring.
Earlier this summer, Romanian prosecutors said in a statement that the Tate brothers had recruited their alleged victims by misleading them about their romantic intentions, before transporting the women to a house on the outskirts of Bucharest - where they were sexually exploited by the group, and forced to produce pornographic content through physical violence and mental coercion.
The prosecutors’ file also contains what is claimed to be transcriptions of audio messages from 2020 - in which Tristan Tate appears to say he doesn’t want the women on sites like PornHub and OnlyFans to have access to their accounts:
She says she was unable to reject Mr Tate because he would hold her head during sex, telling her he no longer wanted to receive negative messages from her, and threatening to get her pregnant and lock her in a house.
In their report, prosecutors allege that the Tate brothers do not appear to have income “from lawful activities”, but that from 2018 onwards they acquired “numerous properties”, “15 of the rarest and most expensive cars”, estimated to be worth more than £3m, as well as jewellery and $400,000 in cryptocurrency.
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king of the incels
Friend of mine started talking in defense of this guy, and although my wife is best friends with his girlfriend, I cancelled his ass quicker than Netflix coming down on my account sharing. Fuck him and fuck his following.
Okay, feminist man.
Imagine having such brain damage that you think that taking offense that someone is defending a rape apologist is somehow something worth derision.
Being against rape and human trafficking is enough to be a feminist now? That’s news!
Throwing a hissy fit (rage even) just because the guy supports some random guy is a feminist trait, yea. Normal guys just say ‘come on, that dude is a douche’ and leave it at that.
Hissy fit/rage? They just said they don’t talk to the guy anymore, how can you assume so much when you barely know any details?
In addition, if someone defends Andrew Tate after knowing what he did and what he preaches, I don’t think think it is someone worthwhile having around.
Yeah, filter your friends according to Cosmo filters, nice life advice. 🤣
I filter people through human decency and character. If you judge that, your problem.
Did you explain why he was wrong first or did you just walk away accomplishing nothing?
If you’re a Tate fan, you know what’s wrong with him, it just doesn’t bother you. At best you can be socially pressured into dropping him but deep down you think a sex trafficking and rape is just guys being dudes.
I don’t know if I believe that. I mean yes, Andrew Tate is a piece of shit. Full stop, that is fact in my eyes.
The people who follow him could just be stupid, though. Sure there are certainly fucking pyschos that think sex trafficking and whatever else degenerate shit Tate gets into are fine, but all of his followers?
Don’t attribute to malice what can easily be explained by stupidity.
You can be stupid and a piece of shit, which does actually encompass all tate dickriders and “fans”
How about I tried and accomplished nothing.
Better to try and accomplish nothing than to never try at all.
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Why would someone need to feel empowered for throwing toxic people out of their lives?
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Probably just made their own life a bit nicer?
Empowered. Come on, try to troll with gooderer English.
“Based.”
-The response to these files from every misogynistic piece of shit, some in their early teens, that buys into that ideology.
Every year, there are fewer and fewer pieces of shit. 20 years ago, maybe even 10, no one would even know about this. Times are changing, and although it is true that a huge proportion of people are the literal worst, it IS getting better. Maybe in a few more generations things like this will be a thing of the past. Fortunately these particular scumbags are being held accountable.
idk about this. there’s a new wave of transphobia that’s spread as far as progressive dem circles (cf the Young Turks) and the right has gotten so rabid about it that they’re conducting a genocide across much of the country. I’m not using that term lightly - the goal of this slate of legislation is to remove trans people’s ability to exist in public spaces and to kill us by outlawing access to lifesaving medical care.
What legislation? That seems like a pretty big deal and I’d love to learn more.
But the point still stands- how many openly trans people were there in 2003? Not many, probably because they were violently suppressed. The world today has a long way to go, but it’s getting better. All I’m saying is, it’s getting better.
Here’s an overwiew: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/03/anti-trans-transgender-health-care-ban-legislation-bill-minors-children-lgbtq/
Also i know a ton of older trans people who were already out 20 years ago. There’s more of us not repressing our transness today, sure, and just 5 years ago i would’ve agreed with you that things have improved massively, but the last few yeasrs have been outright terrifying, there’s a very real backlash against trans rights and it is bankrolled with a ton of money from reactionary activists in the US, but also Brazil, the UK, the EU, Russia and the gulf states. Hate crimes are increasing,t his years’ pride season was full of attacks and vilification as well. Queerphobia is taking over as the right’s new favorite form of bigottry. Things are getting rough out there, i’ve regularly seen requests about migrating to Europe from American and British trans people during the last year, until the majority recently changed to posts like “im stuck in Florida and can’t leave, what happens to my body when i can’t take HRT (hormone replacement therapy) anymore?” Talks about where to move to when things turn south are fairly common among us nowadays, as are plans to arm and organize for community self defense.
Oof that’s what I get for talking about shit that I don’t know anything about. Sounds pretty scary 😬
It’s fortunately not as bad as that everywhere, and there’s also different developments. A pretty large part of society is becoming more accepting of us, not just tolerant, but actually caring and genuinely curious and willing to help where they can. I’ve had overwhelmingly positive reactions when i came out, i actually have more and deeper friendships than i used to, there’s loads of wonderful, kind, supportive people out there.
But there’s this backlash at the same time, and in the areas and milieus where that’s happening, it’s really terrifying and awful.
I do admit outright homophobia and toxic masculinity in my local school district seems significantly decreased since the time I was a student in it. There’s still bullying and dumb shit from Tateheads and the like, but they tend to be ostracized instead of held in awe by the rest of the students now.
Reminds me of 21 Jump Street.
People have been talking like this since the advent of civil society. As people age, the poorer ones often die and the class interests of the wealthier ones change and they become an all-to-appropriate replacement for the generation that died off.
They’re more visible now, and that also means a light is being shone on their activities.
So it looks like there are more, when in reality things are being dealt with.
Right, its nearly impossible to talk about changes in society as a wholly quantitative thing. Nominative identities are ‘fuzzy’, they shift, are created by peoples, and create peoples.
Nevermind the unsubstantiated claim that there are fewer people with sexist beliefs today than in the past–what we can say, and indeed what really gets to heart of the matter of the interplay of forces in society, is that an identity, or “global person” has emerged–first as descriptive and then as something consciously taken on–set apart from the rest of society in an antagonistic relationship that as its entire foundation is predicated on sexiat beleif.
IDK there is a bunch more that needs to be said. Lot to unpack in that original comment…
Subscriptions to their online groups, the War Room and Hustler’s University, appear to bring the brothers around $5m a month in membership fees, prosecutors say.
Im gonna bet this is money laundering
There’s a lot of money to be made off of incels and dumb kids
Yeah its like 100k people sending $50 per month which is pretty believable. But still! Well have to see how it all plays out
I doubt it because given the fact he has bragged about the exact methodologies of his sex trafficking operation on the internet I don’t think he’s smart enough to know to launder his money
the War Room
Lanyard brain.
Not even once.
: “Heh, silly women who fawn over Ted Bundy!”Also
: “Andrew Tate should legally get away with it because he’s soooooooooooooo KEWL U GUIZE!”Who’s that supposed to represent
Incels.
This guy has to go away
I still remain convinced that he is completly fucked. This is such an out for the actual oligarchs who run Romania. They get to look good both showing that Romania is not corrupt and that they are not at all a sex trafficing hub by convicting this stranger, who is not actually rich by their standards or part of the ruling class of a crime he has demonstrably commited. I think we are about to see a textbook example of how the law is supposed to work according to liberal textbooks. Andrew Tate will in no way be mistreated while in custody and will be given the very picture of a fair trial. Then he will be convicted and face a sentence not unlike what a normal person would face.
…And then the Romanian oligarchs will probably get their Schengen deal, but whatever. I don’t expect to get to see my side win, but I do expect to see someone I despise lose pretty spectacularly. I can enjoy that.
How is his chin that small even WITH a beard? Is that the real reason incels idolize him? I know they’ve got lots of weird chin issues is he like their Helen Keller? Chinless success story?
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Honestly it’s just fascinating to me that incel culture has such a huge fixation on chins yet their messiah doesn’t even have one.
I’ve been following incel culture for a while now (and honestly mostly because so many try to kill themselves after being exposed to poison from men like this). And most of the time I just wind up roping any male staff member I can find (everybody from security to chaplains) to talk to these young men because I know I have no business womansplaining healthy masculinity to these young men.
But go ahead and get mad about one comment then read through my comment history for dirt like we’re still on reddit even though lemmy said it would be different.
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