Summary

Two Oregon men, aged 59 and 37, were found dead from exposure in Washington State’s Gifford Pinchot National Forest after failing to return from a Christmas Eve trip to search for Sasquatch.

The Skamania County Sheriff’s Office attributed their deaths to harsh weather and lack of preparedness.

A family member reported them missing early Christmas Day, prompting a three-day search involving 60 volunteers, drones, canines, and Coast Guard infrared technology.

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    I grew up backpacking those woods. December is dangerous even for experienced outdoorsmen. I’m going to guess they were not dressed appropriately, and didn’t have any means of navigation outside of cell phones. There is zero cell service in the area. It’s very easy to get turned around even with navigation there.

    Be prepared and know what you’re getting into before you go off the grid folks.

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      It’s insane to me how many people just grab their phone and think “I’m good to go on an all day woodland adventure!” with no water, no food, clothing for an afternoon at the mall, and not even a backup battery for their phone.

      I’ve actually packed extra clothes for someonein my bag specifically because I knew they were going to regret shorts and half a t-shirt. Cue 2 hours later they’re complaining about being cold when we’re in the valleys…

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        Like fuck, it can get damn chilly at night in the mendocino forests in June the wrong years. I don’t want to imagine how fucking cold it feels in actual winter a few hundred miles north

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    Grindr sound

    “Uhh, Honey? I’m just going to have a quick walk to… err… look for a Yeti.”

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      That explains the assless chaps. If you dont want to die from exposure, you gotta put up with the inconvienece of lowering your trousers

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    It’s Christmas Eve. Don’t you think you should be sitting at home waiting for Santa Claus, another mythological creature? And, what a waste of manpower and resources looking for them, on a holiday no less.

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      Could have just let the Sasquatch look for them. There’s a pretty good record of people being returned unharmed but with very vague memories.

      what’s the symbol for “sarcasm status uncertain”… /u?

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    Some of my wife’s family are Bigfoot believers and she has a masters in folklore, so she went with them to a Bigfoot convention earlier this year. I don’t tell her what to do by any means, but I did tell her I was really against the idea because she’s giving money to people (i.e. the people charging admission to the convention) who are exploiting those who might have serious mental illnesses or will end up doing something really stupid because of something they heard at the convention.

    And this sort of thing is exactly why.

    Do not promote mythology and folktales as reality because some people end up going way too far assuming they’ll be the ones to prove it. Anyway, they’re just fine as mythology and folktales, which is why very few people go out looking for centaurs and bottled djinn. Yes, mythology and folktales can be based on reality. But you need more than that to go on.

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      These guys could have also died going on a regular hike, a hunting trip or any other reason to go into the woods. The bigger issue here is they weren’t prepared for the weather conditions they were outside in, that should be the bigger focus on preventing this kind of death in the future. Even if i don’t believe in bigfoot, I could i injure my ankle cross country skiing and still die to hypothermia if I wasn’t prepared.

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        Inexperienced people wouldn’t go out into the woods in bad weather conditions looking for Bigfoot if they didn’t think there was a Bigfoot in the first place. So they wouldn’t have been going into the woods for another reason. Not right now.

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          Inexperienced people find lots of reasons to go into the woods. Drunken bonfires, chasing lost dogs, trying to be healthier by going for walks. Blaming this soley on believing in bigfoot is a little unreasonable.

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            I’m not blaming it solely on anything. You’re right, they find lots of reasons. Don’t give them more.

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      Meh just let people have their fun and their beliefs. People die doing all sorts of stupid shit.

      It’s not like they’re health quacks or chiropractors who actually take money and can hurt people. It’s not RFK causing an anti-vax measles outbreak.

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          It’s kinda like religion though right? Who is anyone to say it’s not true. It’s kind of mean to shit on what other people are into or what they choose to believe as long as they’re not hurting anyone else. There’s no evidence on the Bigfoot topic that we know of at the moment, but there are tons of scientific discoveries that happen. They didn’t know about Lyme disease until 1982.

          Should beliefs be separated from state and science decisions - absolutely.

          The paranormal is interesting to think about and discuss. There are grifters but there are grifters everywhere, no matter what topic you’re interested in. These guys took it too far but hey that’s humanity for ya - people also die from autoerotic asphyxiation, bungee jumping, and free solo climbing, none of which I’m interested in pursuing for myself.

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            It’s kind of mean to shit on what other people are into or what they choose to believe as long as they’re not hurting anyone else.

            The people who push books and TV shows and stuff to convince others that Bigfoot exists are absolutely hurting others. This is literally the evidence of that. Unlike the total lack of evidence for Bigfoot. That didn’t stop Animal Planet from running a show called “Finding Bigfoot” for nine seasons.

            I have no idea why you think they aren’t hurting anyone. Do you think these guys wouldn’t have died if all that media wasn’t made available to them (for a profit)?

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              I think we can go down a really deep hole of all of the dumb shit that people die from because they believed something false that was sold for a profit. Apart from what we as a society have agreed upon as the most abhorrent opinions/beliefs and have legislatively banned, I’m really not comfortable with branding media or books as dangerous (see all the book banning nonsense going on in the US).

              No matter what way you slice it - it’s their choice isn’t it. Adults are allowed to do what they want, even if it’s fringe, and people can’t stop them.

              People are allowed to express and sell points of view that I disagree with as long as they’re not inciting violence or directly causing harm to people. People are allowed to listen. I am only responsible for myself and my choices.

              And just because these people made poor choices, it doesn’t mean that everyone into the topic would do the same. I think it’s less that they believed in Bigfoot and more that they were unprepared for the wilderness.

              No one told them to go into the woods in the dead of winter. They weren’t on a paid wilderness tour. They chose this for themselves and got into trouble. It’s unfortunate that it happened at Christmas.

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                I have no idea why you think I’m talking about the people who died here. I’ve tried to make it as clear as I could that I am talking about the people enabling them.

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                  What I’m saying is: adults are responsible for what they believe.

                  No one can enable an adult to do anything. They are adults who make choices.

                  Who is anyone to tell people that they can’t publish a book or make a piece of media (as long as the topic is not illegal). That’s some authoritarian shit right there.