Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I’m sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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    11 个月前

    You said a flaw is still a disability even when everyone has it.

    Where did I wrote that?! I wrote that the hypothetical situation where everyone has a broken leg and therefore then it would be considered normal, doesn’t invalidate that a broken leg is a handicap in our (non-hypothetical) real life.

    Also, being double jointed is not considered a disability.

    And further, the word is clearly defined (this is translated from my language to English):

    Physical, mental, intellectual or sensory impairments which prevent a person from participating equally in society for longer than six months.

    And what we categorise as a disability is grounded on the definition above. Since autism is categorized as a disability, it wouldn’t make sense to diagnose someone with autism if the above is not true.

    I don’t see how this can not make sense. It seems so obvious that you do not have a disability when nothing is disabling you. When someone says “I have disability X but it’s not disabling” then congratulations, you are cured.

    • DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      11 个月前

      Also, being double jointed is not considered a disability.

      Nobody thinks being double jointed is a disability. You misunderstood the point I was making. So I’ll make it in clearer terms:

      I can understand complex hypotheticals and you can’t. Does that make you disabled, because you can’t participate in this conversation as my equal? Or does the fact you’re not much worse at it than the average person make you normal, and therefore not disabled? Are we measuring disability against the average person, or against the most capable person in the room? Or the most capable person in the world, for that matter? Are you intellectually disabled by the fact that someone better at reasoning than you exists?

      I wanted to ask this question using Michael Phelps as an example instead of myself, but you didn’t understand, so it’s clear I need to make the situation more relatable for your benefit. That’s why I ask a more personal version of the question. Are you disabled because of my existence?

      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
        1·
        11 个月前

        I think you have trouble understanding the difference between definitions for words or the context of general terms and your own personal experience.

          • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
            1·
            11 个月前

            You didn’t answer my question (“Where did I wrote that”) and your answer doesn’t make it clear to me if you even understood my point. So I am not sure why you think it’s me who isn’t having a conversation.

              • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
                1·
                11 个月前

                Do you mean the question where you tried to paint me as dumber than you because I do not agree with your reasoning?

                Yeah, I won’t answer to your narcissistic ramblings because your premise is wrong. I have no trouble understanding your reasoning, I just think it’s wrong.

                What is and isn’t categorized as a disability isn’t subjectively decided randomly. It’s a decision based on our current real life situation. Not your head cannon.

                Autism is considered a disability because of the definition of what makes a disability I provided above. While you personally can say that you feel not disabled, a claim that “autism is not a disability because when people were different it wouldn’t matter” isn’t rational reasoning.

                • DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  11 个月前

                  No, I mean the question where I asked if you changed your mind because you directly contradicted yourself

                  Also the reason you’re dumber than me is that you think I think being double jointed is a disability and you think I think I’m not disabled. You don’t understand what I’m talking about at all.

                  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
                    1·
                    11 个月前

                    I didn’t contradict myself, you didn’t understood what I was writing. Otherwise, please provide where I contradicted myself.

                    You tried to substantiate your claim that the question whether or not something is a disability depends on (social) context with mentioning that the “flaw” that Michael Phelps has supposedly aided him in being a better swimmer.

                    My point is that, for the definition whether or not something is categorized as a disability, it doesn’t matter whether it is not disabling in certain contexts for certain individuals. Or whether you can imagine a society where it’s not disabling.

                    “Intrinsic” and “non-intrinsic” disabilities, this differentiation does not make sense.