edit3: I should have started by pointing out that you could have read my comment in the first place if you really wanted to know what I wanted to say, it’s unambiguous so there really should be no confusssion and it’s clear i never referenced colllonialism or any of the other bullshit claims made here. given that you are voting down some of my other comments after this interaction shows your true intentions, even if you avoid voting down this one. it seems that some people still don’t understand that all this info is public on the fediverse.
well It’s not the real issue at point but if you want me to ellaborate. there is some really weird thing that happened during the enlightehment period where a lot of people in europe argued that slavery was not right, supposedly according to historians (and I’m still not buying this part as it seems too self serving) it was because it wasn’t aligned with christian values. I’ll spend some time looking into william rutheford when I have time to seee if there is any factual evidence behind this claim. anyways the point is that europeans spend massive amount of resources and their own lives ending the slave trade in africa by forcing africans to stop enslaving other africans. that’s what I was talking about. I never said europeans enslaved or didn’t slave anyone.
the context was a submission about reparations. i am not extremely knowledgable about history but my argument was that many europeans died ending the slave trade, be it against pirates, slave traders or diseases in africa, and they were not doing it for profit so anyone asking for reparations is denying all that sacrifice.
edit: since some people are claiming i’m an asshole as if that somehow justified the stalking i feel I shoudl clarify. the weird part is that those people were willing to pay a prize for their beliefes and embark on ships on expeditions where they literraly had no expectation of profit and were risking their lives. I’m not saying that’s wrong . i’ts so incredibly admirable that I personally have a difficult time believing it. to put this in better context for current times in my views this is as if many people suddenly decided to give up their cozy lives in america and decided to go to third world countries to help them. it happens but it’s nowhere near the volume of volunteers needed to uplift all people from poverty.
edit2: trolls might think that they “got me” by making me spend the time producing a real answer but in reality it just shows that oxide was lying and this people are either pro-slavery or just harrasing.
@Zima@FfaerieOxide stop being so silly. why would you come onto the internets, publicly post stuff that’s apparently a little chaotic, and then not expect some backlash…?
and then you expect strangers to protect you from the free service they are paying for you to use…? why don’t you just get better with your words? or post in places that are more supportive of whatever opinions you’re promoting? or start your own instance?
I don’t think that having some semblance of knowledge of history is chaotic. I do think that if admins want this instance to trhive they woudl address this types of issues if they have the resources. It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree.
@Zima@FfaerieOxide i understand why people make accounts like that about you. i’ve never even looked up anything else you have ever posted. just from this thread, i get it.
this interaction has now ended, if you choose to reply you’re free to have the last word, i don’t care. i’m muting you.
Why don’t you quote what I said instead of your inversed/distorted version of it?
What are you trying to say then?
edit3: I should have started by pointing out that you could have read my comment in the first place if you really wanted to know what I wanted to say, it’s unambiguous so there really should be no confusssion and it’s clear i never referenced colllonialism or any of the other bullshit claims made here. given that you are voting down some of my other comments after this interaction shows your true intentions, even if you avoid voting down this one. it seems that some people still don’t understand that all this info is public on the fediverse.
well It’s not the real issue at point but if you want me to ellaborate. there is some really weird thing that happened during the enlightehment period where a lot of people in europe argued that slavery was not right, supposedly according to historians (and I’m still not buying this part as it seems too self serving) it was because it wasn’t aligned with christian values. I’ll spend some time looking into william rutheford when I have time to seee if there is any factual evidence behind this claim. anyways the point is that europeans spend massive amount of resources and their own lives ending the slave trade in africa by forcing africans to stop enslaving other africans. that’s what I was talking about. I never said europeans enslaved or didn’t slave anyone.
the context was a submission about reparations. i am not extremely knowledgable about history but my argument was that many europeans died ending the slave trade, be it against pirates, slave traders or diseases in africa, and they were not doing it for profit so anyone asking for reparations is denying all that sacrifice.
edit: since some people are claiming i’m an asshole as if that somehow justified the stalking i feel I shoudl clarify. the weird part is that those people were willing to pay a prize for their beliefes and embark on ships on expeditions where they literraly had no expectation of profit and were risking their lives. I’m not saying that’s wrong . i’ts so incredibly admirable that I personally have a difficult time believing it. to put this in better context for current times in my views this is as if many people suddenly decided to give up their cozy lives in america and decided to go to third world countries to help them. it happens but it’s nowhere near the volume of volunteers needed to uplift all people from poverty.
edit2: trolls might think that they “got me” by making me spend the time producing a real answer but in reality it just shows that oxide was lying and this people are either pro-slavery or just harrasing.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide regardless what you said or didn’t say, this is the fediverse. mute/block them and move on, it’s really all you can do.
if you’re accountable to what you say then what do you care if others try to distort it? the truth is out there.
yes. as long as it’s legimitate users. the moment they start creating fuckyou<username> alt accounts just to harras I think they should be banned.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide also, exactly who would ban them on the fediverse
i don’t think you understand how silly you are.
kbin admins/global mods. that’s what I’m trying to find out from this post.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide stop being so silly. why would you come onto the internets, publicly post stuff that’s apparently a little chaotic, and then not expect some backlash…?
and then you expect strangers to protect you from the free service they are paying for you to use…? why don’t you just get better with your words? or post in places that are more supportive of whatever opinions you’re promoting? or start your own instance?
https://kbin.social/contact
i’m really getting a kick out of this.
I don’t think that having some semblance of knowledge of history is chaotic. I do think that if admins want this instance to trhive they woudl address this types of issues if they have the resources. It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide i understand why people make accounts like that about you. i’ve never even looked up anything else you have ever posted. just from this thread, i get it.
this interaction has now ended, if you choose to reply you’re free to have the last word, i don’t care. i’m muting you.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide what exactly is your definition of a legitimate user
Is there a point to your question?