Stop spreading misinformation. It’s not against HIPPA for medical providers to disclose the barebones amount of to collections if they signed the notice of privavy practices
This is a pretty big misconcepion as well. When you ask for this per FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act), it has to pause the collection process (stopping it from reporting to credit & stopping phone calls while they order it from the hospital), but that may be all it does. Once the IB is sent, collection can continue. It is not a guarenteed way to stop the debt.
If you want to stop the debt say “I DISPUTE the validity of this debt.” The dispute word is very important here. On top of this also get the name of the agency and the person you’re speaking with, ideally before the dispute word, in case they breach this violation you can sue. You can also sue if they affect your credit after saying you dispute it. It’s very very very rare agencies will follow up with asking for money after using the dispute word because its often too resource intensive for them. After this tell them to not contact you by any means. They legally cannot contact you at this point.
Just don’t pay it, not a thing they can do if they just tell me some arbitrary amount. Try it yourself and you’ll see, it’s not worth their time to collect.
Just don’t pay your debt, if they send it to collections they’ve broken HIPPA ;)
They don’t actually send PHI to collections…
How does one itemize a value they cannot legally view?
Who says they can’t? Have you actually read all of the documentation you sign when you have a medical procedure?
You can not legally sign away your HIPPA rights, just so you know.
Stop spreading misinformation. It’s not against HIPPA for medical providers to disclose the barebones amount of to collections if they signed the notice of privavy practices
How does one itemize a value they cannot legally view?
I already told you. This is misinformation, they request it from the hospital and it takes a few days to a week.
Be very specific, what exactly is your claim here?
That they send it to collections w/o any true info about what’s in the debt?
Because you just explained exactly why you don’t have to pay that shit.
has your legal theory been tested in court?
A lot of it yes, it’s a general guideline where-as the other information being provided is clear misinformation.
My information is cited from a previous collections agency worker as well as many people to back it’s legitamacy up.
Reddit archive link doesn’t function right now so I have to send the direct link, sorry: https://www.reddit.com/r/UnethicalLifeProTips/comments/hr6ccy/ulpt_how_to_dispute_medical_debt_the_right/
that read is though it’s anecdotal. I was hoping that you could cite a case.
The Notice of Privacy Practices you sign allows them to share the barebones amount of information for debt
How does one itemize a value they cannot legally view?
This is a pretty big misconcepion as well. When you ask for this per FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act), it has to pause the collection process (stopping it from reporting to credit & stopping phone calls while they order it from the hospital), but that may be all it does. Once the IB is sent, collection can continue. It is not a guarenteed way to stop the debt.
If you want to stop the debt say “I DISPUTE the validity of this debt.” The dispute word is very important here. On top of this also get the name of the agency and the person you’re speaking with, ideally before the dispute word, in case they breach this violation you can sue. You can also sue if they affect your credit after saying you dispute it. It’s very very very rare agencies will follow up with asking for money after using the dispute word because its often too resource intensive for them. After this tell them to not contact you by any means. They legally cannot contact you at this point.
You agree, yet decided to argue against the point anyway.
I disagreed.
Just don’t pay it, not a thing they can do if they just tell me some arbitrary amount. Try it yourself and you’ll see, it’s not worth their time to collect.
They can take from your paycheck, harm your credit score, summon you to court, ban you from certain hospitals if its medical debt, and more.
Lol