• Breezy@lemmy.world
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    9 个月前

    Dude broke through restraints, clearly a pen is a deadly weapon in his hands.

    • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org
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      9 个月前

      I guess. But you can also smother someone with a fluffy pillow. So that’s a deadly weapon, too? Like where is the line between “deadly weapon” and “any random object”.

      • quindraco@lemm.ee
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        9 个月前

        There is no such line. The pillow counts as a weapon and all weapons count as deadly.

      • candybrie@lemmy.world
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        9 个月前

        I think it might just be a line of how they used the random object could have reasonably resulted in death. So if you smack someone in the face with a fluffy pillow, it’s not a deadly weapon. If you try to smother them with it, it is.

      • r00ty@kbin.life
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        9 个月前

        Seems quite simple to me. Things like guns, swords, daggers and the like are designed to be weapons. So they’re generally going to be assumed to be a weapon any time they’re used/brandished.

        But literally anything can be used as a weapon. So, in normal use they’re not a weapon but if used as a weapon, they become one in that instance.

        • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org
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          9 个月前

          Yeah, but then the term “deadly weapon” is kind of meaningless as it basically just means “assualt with a thing”.

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            9 个月前

            Yeah, I’d agree there. It should be whatever the US equivalent of aggravated assault is. But the charges you could levy bearing in mind he aimed for the head could go as far as attempted murder I guess.

          • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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            9 个月前

            I think on a legal level it means it was an object that was being wielded as a weapon, and from the attack in the specific instance it was meant to kill and the object was capable of achieving that. Hence a deadly weapon.

          • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
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            9 个月前

            Not entirely useless. “Assaulted with thing that could kill or maim under the circumstances at that time” is pretty relevant, even if it is super broad.

            Spitting on someone Is assault. If I was on trial for spitting on someone I’d hate to get lumped together with the guy who caved someone’s head in with a lead pipe.

      • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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        9 个月前

        If you used it as a weapon and it had the potential to kill the victim, then yes, it would be a deadly weapon.