Adding to the mountain of evidence that Israel is engaged in a genocidal war on the Gaza Strip, Al Jazeera on Thursday aired footage of what the news outlet reported was an Israeli drone targeting four Palestinians in Khan Younis last month.

Those killed by the unmanned aerial vehicle in the rubble of the southern Gaza city appear to be unarmed teenagers or young men. According to a translation of the coverage, they were not identified in the reporting.

Tariq Kenney-Shawa, Al-Shabaka’s U.S. policy fellow, said: “This is among the worst footage I’ve seen. Not only were these boys clearly unarmed and present no threat whatsoever, but they were struck multiple times even after stumbling/crawling away. There is no way they could have been considered combatants. This is unreal.”

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    How are we almost six months into this genocide and people are still conflating Jewishness with Zionism?

    Most Zionists are not Jews, and many Jews are not Zionists, in fact some Jews are fervently anti-Zionist.

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      I’ll tell you the nasty truth. You’re right, but if a politician ran a campaign to strip Israel of all their benefits of American Exceptionalism they will be crushed in the polls. They won’t just lose they will be decimated.

      Why?

      Because despite what you say, many of those Jews you are referring to are actually Zionists once cutting off the hand that feeds their homeland is threatened.

      Non-Jews need to understand that unlike Christianity there is a level of identity politics steeped in nationalism, religion and culture are all so heavily intertwined it’s hard to break through. I’m speaking from experience. 3 of my kids are Jewish.

      I feel sorry for those sane Israelis that are powerless as their insanely right wing government kills any hope they have for a safe future thanks to destroying an already tenuous relationship with all their neighbours in the ME.

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        They won’t just lose they will be decimated.

        offtopic: “Decimated” means “reduced by 10%”, that is, multiplied by 0.9, that is, in the ancient Rome it meant “every 10th executed”. Seems closer to “just lose” than to “crushed in the polls”. While correcting people writing in their native language which isn’t mine is stupid, in this case the term is Roman, so.

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          Other meaning: “kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.”

          The word has more than just one meaning of “reduction by 1/10”, even if that’s originally where the expression comes from. But im sure a smart guy as yourself already knew that.

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            In general how a word is used is what it means in the language, prescriptivism is cancer. I just felt that its original meaning is worth preserving too, and there are many ways to say “badly hurt”.

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              The only cancer is you going around trying to “correct” people when there’s nothing to correct.

              They used the word “decimated” accurately.

              You’re not preserving the original meaning. You’re just being an ass.

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                The only cancer is you going around trying to “correct” people when there’s nothing to correct.

                How does it feel to be such a moron that you can’t be bothered to look up the word “prescriptivism”, don’t know it, thus don’t get what you are answering and still decide to throw insults?

                You’re not preserving the original meaning. You’re just being an ass.

                What’s certain is that I don’t seek for evaluations of my actions and statements from apes who guess the meaning of words while having Internet access.

                EDIT: and guess the exact opposite at that

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                  “While correcting people writing in their native language which isn’t mine is stupid, in this case the term is Roman, so.”

                  That is your quote. Moron. You fully admit you are trying to correct people.

                  But sure, try to make it about “prescriptivism” if that’s what you want you absolute clown.

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        Because despite what you say, many of those Jews you are referring to are actually Zionists once cutting off the hand that feeds their homeland is threatened.

        Many who have actual ties to the occupying state, or who still consider it a “homeland” despite what they’re seeing before their eyes, probably.

        Non-Jews need to understand that unlike Christianity there is a level of identity politics steeped in nationalism, religion and culture are all so heavily intertwined it’s hard to break through.

        That Religio-nationalism isn’t alien to us. Look at American Christian nationalism. Second Thought: The Growing Threat Of Christian Nationalism

        Settler-colonialism isn’t foreign to us either: we created it. The Jewish state is a settler-colony created by and still supported by & deeply dependent on Global North colonizers. America itself is a settler-colony: we genocided the indigenous peoples and settled here.

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      https://www.jpr.org.uk/reports/conflict-israel-and-gaza-what-do-jews-uk-think

      https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/

      https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/

      The majority of US/UK jews are both pro-Israel and not against what is going on in Gaza

      I couldn’t find a worldwide survey but it doesn’t seem altogether unfair to conflate the jewish religion with the worldwide bastion of that religion any more than it would be wrong to conflate Catholics and the pope. This does NOT mean its ok to harm people based on what they believe. Adding to the sum total of harm does nothing to alleviate the suffering in Gaza.

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      Most Zionists are not Jews

      Where did you get this from? It sounds wrong to me. The early Zionist terrorist groups (Haganah, Lehi etc.) were singularly Jewish groups, with mass immigration of Jews to Palestine being one of their top priorities (getting the British and Palestinians out being another).

      To vote in the World Zionist Congress you have to be Jewish.

      Or maybe this is a question of definition- how do you define Zionists in this case?