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Went to a metal concert last year for a huge, well known band. The number of punisher/warrior, thin blue line, militia-styled ragged flag, Gadsden shirts and hats was off the charts.
In my younger days metal was anti-authoritarianism, anti-cop, anti-conformity… now these clowns are the ones who want to be holding the riot batons, the body armor, and support the very fascists we hated.
I got plenty of grey hair, the crowd around me didn’t so I’m thinking there’s a generational shift to metal going fascist.
Yeah, the meme rings pretty true.
Lot of metal recently using racist ideology, etc. Sucks that anything with a Celtic or Viking design has a racist vibe behind it now
Right? Of all people our veterinarian wears a Mjölnir necklace…I had to do a triple take to make sure he wasn’t a supremacist asshole, but no, he’s a legit Norwegian who likes Nordic style in general. He wears a Dragestil belt with silver inlay, some tattoos too. Cool guy. Sad that my first thought was wondering if he was a nazi supremacist because the symbols have been usurped and corrupted.
As an Icelander who still practices the old customs this drives me nuts. These scum lack the basic imagination to come up with their own logos so they steal our symbols? Fuck that.
I just wish one of the Kardashians or some influencer would go big on Nordic symbology and bring it to the mainstream. Maybe it would lose its appeal to these fucks.
That’s the thing, isn’t it? All these extremists steal other people’s stuff and corrupt it to their own purposes. Nazis did it. Religions did it. Supremacists are doing it with Nordic cultural symbols.
Fucking posers, man…
Oh what’s this? Allegations by… 35 women?
God dammit.
Bonus points for his fans shouting about how he wasn’t convicted so “He was totally cleared of all that, they’re just jealous psychos!”
Because everyone knows sexual assault is notoriously well dealt with.
I mean, if none of the 35 allegations actually go anywhere, I’m not going to assume they actually did something either. Seems sus on all accounts.
If 35 different people say they were sexually assaulted by someone then the chances that all of them are untrue is miniscule.
And somehow none of them having nothing to show for it in court, hmm. I feel like that’s less likely, considering how easy it is to accuse (especially anonymously). I guess it all depends on the what sort of accusations they are and how detailed, if the facts seem plausible etc. If it’s 35 very credible accusations from people speaking out in their own name, uh oh, that sounds pretty bad. If it’s 35 pretty vague seeming accusations on Twitter from anonymous accounts, ehh I’ll definitely wait for something more concrete. And after all in court you’d only need one of them to succeed for all of them to seem credible, but with none of them succeeding, I’m starting to doubt the accusations.
Yeah. I find that a lot in very disparate genres, too. I pretty much have to look up anyone I like more than a little now.
When I found out about the guy from Crystal Castles 10 years after the fact… Yea major bummer. Sucks he’s a POS and the things he’s done, and the cherry on top is now I can’t enjoy their music again.
I can’t be expected to research every individual in every band I listen to. That’s hundreds, possibly thousands, of musicians.
Art and artist can be separated. I mean, even this painting shows technical merit?
Not enough to get him into art school.
Damn shame, in hindesight. A bit more mediocre art on the pile could have spared us the implosion of Central Europe.
Do you really believe that without hitler, the fascists wouldn’t have found another leader?
I think he was more talented at galvanizing an audience than Himmler or Goering, and prettier to look at than Goebbels.
In the same way Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis will never draw the same crowds as Trump, The Dolph had that special sauce that congels people around a movement.
I can see a history in which Rosa Luxembourg was the firebrand that ignited a national movement but doesn’t end up invading Poland over some delusional vision of a New Reich.
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Its kinda funny how I used to see bands that had really good music and shit politics, because the political views were trendy but the music scene was very open and diverse.
Now I see musicians that suck absolute dog turds somehow squeezing themselves up and out the ass of the Billboard 100, because some douche noozle billionaire bought a million copies of their album sound unheard just to get them trending on Spotify.
Whether its “Rich men north of Richmond” or Whatever the Fuck This Is these attempts at music are comically bad. At this point, I would happily trade whatever leftist-ish club music we occasionally get as trickle down for some modern day Morrissey.
“Rich men” was a catchy tune though. You just don’t like the genre or perhaps what the lyrics say
“Rich men” was a catchy tune though
It had a catchy beat. But the lyrics were a muddled mess. Guy can’t figure out if he’s doing ABAB, AABB, ABCB, his stanzas are an absolute trainwreck and there’s some ackward repetition.
And the production? Some of the worst acoustics possible.
You just don’t like the genre
The genre of folk/country or the genre of whiny acoustic beatnik? Garth Brooks this guy ain’t and I don’t see him landing a spot in the Charlie Daniels band with that low energy strum.
Yeah i dunno bud, I ain’t a musician but I like what i heard. Least he sounded real, Garth is pretty phony sometimes.
Least he sounded rea
He sounded like he was playing a guitar in the woods. 90% of Bandcamp has better production value.
Did pretty fucking good for a guy playing in a clearing in the woods.
Go to any bar with an open mic and you’ll find a guy just as good.
His success was entirely due to marketing. As soon as that dried up, people forgot he existed.
Just don’t worry about it. Once upon a time a couple decades ago, we didn’t know anything about musicians’ private lives, other than what was released through their PR managers. It was a happier, simpler time. After years of being disappointed with the people whose work I respect, I finally just started avoiding learning anything about the people themselves. Of course people who are idolized by millions of other people, have unlimited money, and are surrounded by yes men are going to be cringe in one way or another. I don’t want to hear about it, I want to enjoy my music.
Once upon a time a couple decades ago, we didn’t know anything about musicians’ private lives
Oh sure. Famously, nobody read tabloids or did muckrack journalism prior to 1990.
And there certainly wasn’t a hotbed of right-wing media focused on outing popular musicians as gay or slandering artists for being minorities or women.
i can remember back in the late 90/early 2000, that the right wingers pushed hard into the goth and metal scene here, looking for new recruits. it definitely felt like a targeted approach, and they did the same with the techno scene before (where they were mostly thrown out). they had more success in the folk scene, but they slowly gained ground over the last years. this sucks :-(
Well, they had plenty of success with skinheads before…
they had more success in the folk scene
Who could forget the absolute renaissance of ultra-nationalist country songs that inundated the country after 9/11?
I was practically begging for some Big and Rich just to get people to stop playing that Ted Nugget slop, by the time I was out of college.
Isn’t Nazis a political party like Republicans?
Edit: goddamnit, do I really gotta “woosh!” All of you? Someone tell me you get it.
There is nationalism: “our people are cooler, let’s favour them, maybe we’ll make it harder for others but we don’t care”, so there are legit parties with that views: conservators, protectionists, socialists (I don’t refer to specific parties or movements, just a general inclination). I don’t like them that much, but we shouldn’t judge opinions, it’s better to promote our own.
And there’s nazism, which usually refers to an ideology like Hitler’s: “yes, we are better, so let’s kill everyone else or make them slaves”, this is just pure evil, I leave it unexplained because it’s really obvious.Socialists definitely don’t value one group over another, they value literally the entirety of humanity. Supporting the Proletariat over the Bourgeoisie is more about property relations and class abolition than literally valuing Proletarians over Bourgeois.
RABM is nice to find non-shitheads.
What’s RABM ?
Red/Anarchist Black Metal. In response to NSBM, National Socialist Black Metal, RABM was formed, it’s an umbrella term for outwardly leftist Black Metal as opposed to outwardly Nazi Black Metal. Marxists and Anarchists describe themselves as RABM if they want to signal their views faster.
Panopticon is a good example.
Sounds like it would attract tankies
I really don’t know what you mean, it’s an explicitly anti-sectarian umbrella of Marxists and Anarchists. Among them are Marxist-Leninists, Anarchists, Orthodox Marxists, even Libertarian Socialists and Market Socialists.
It’s going to attract people under the umbrella of Socialism.
