Hi. I want to start selfhosting my data. I already have a jellyfin server running. I’d like to add a nextcloud instance. The setup of nextcloud says I should open up port 443 for using my own domain. Sadly I am not able to open up this port properly. It is open however when I visit jellyfin.mydomaim.com it is rerouted to the config of my router. To circumvent this problem I have set up a reverse proxy that accepts port 8443 instead of 443. For my jellyfin this seems to work. I can visit it with jellyfin.my domain.com:8443. I don’t know how I can get this to work for nextcloud as it only accepts 443. Any advice on my setup is welcome! BTW I am running Debian on an old PC.
Thanks in advance for the help!

  • r0ckr@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding of what a reverse proxy does.

    The proxy should accept requests on port 80 and 443 and on the basis of the requested website route you to the correct adress:

    1. Request for jellyfin.mydomain.com comes in
    2. Reverse proxy checks where it should reroute it -> host.of.jellyfin:8443

    So your client thinks its talking to your jellyfin-instance over port 443 but in actuality your proxy reroutes the traffic to wherever your jellyfin needs it to arrive.

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      2 years ago

      I get a 302 “temporary redirect” response, I do not know why my router does this. I’ll check its config again. I have added a port mapping so that external 443 is mapped to my internal server 443

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    2 years ago

    I have nextcloud running just fine (with Apache) on a non-443 port. What issue are you seeing exactly? Once your webserver is listening on your port of choice, Nextcloud will show an “untrusted domain” warning if the domain/port have not been set in config.php properly. After that is done, it works perfectly for me.

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      2 years ago

      I was running nextcloud in a docker (and was maybe thinking of running it in snap), how can i change the default 443 port. I have no experience with the docker from nextcloud

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        2 years ago

        @encode8062 @hello_world Please try to avoid using nextcloud in snap. I started with nextcloud in snap and came a long way before I realized the performance and upgrade issues when using snap version of nextcloud. For me it was too late but now I try to ask people to avoid it at all costs.

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          2 years ago

          Not using Nextcloud in snap and not sure where I said I was using it inside snap? What installation method are you using at the moment?

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            2 years ago

            @hello_world Sorry, my reply was meant for @encode8062 . Not sure how you got tagged.
            If the question was for me, I am stuck with using it in snap as my family and I have too much invested in Nextcloud to try to attempt a migration to a non snap instance.

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              No worries :) Let me rephrase the question though - what installation method would you be using if you could?

              So far I’m reasonably happy with a baremetal installation, but considering moving it into some kind of VM.

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                @hello_world I would be using it in a VM or bare metal if I could. I have heard good things about Nextcloud in docker but we are power users on Nextcloud in my house so not sure if docker instance of nextcloud could handle the load.

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                  2 years ago

                  I’d hope for the exact same performance with Docker (or KVM) as on a baremetal host, unless you’re doing userspace networking for ultra-low latency Nextcloud :D (and even that I suppose you could PCI-passthrough the network card?)

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          Thanks you so much for the warning. I was already doubting if that would be a smart choice.

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    2 years ago

    If vising jellyfin.mydomain.com presents you with your routers config that means you don’t have port forwarding working correctly for ports 443. You should google your router’s name + “port forwarding”.

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        I’d make sure you’re forwarding http (port 80) to that same internal host too. I’m assuming thats your jellyfin server. Your browser might not be appending https to your domain and connecting to your router port 80. You can test this by going to both https://<your domain> and http://<your domain>.

        On your local network, does going to https://192.168.1.4 present you with what you actually want?

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    To me this seems like a routing issue. Some things to check:

    • Can a port checking service (like canyouseeme) see 443?
    • Can you connect to 443 from the internet (use a VPN or separate network)?
    • Can you edit your hosts file to point jellyfin.mydomain.com to your jellyfin server’s LAN IP?
    • After doing this, can you connect to jellyfin.mydomain.com on the LAN?

    My guess is the router is routing traffic to it’s external IP from the LAN back to itself, without following port forwarding rules. Good luck figuring it out though!

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      2 years ago
      • Yes!
      • yes but it is 307 temporary redirect to router config page
      • i am not sure what you mean

      Is it normal i cannot access the jellyfin service from the internal network using the Jellyfin.domain.om

      • dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win
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        If you are seeing your routers config page, and you are sure you are connecting from outside your network, it sounds like the router’s 443 page is overriding the port forwarding. Otherwise, it’s like @fixmycode@feddit.cl said and you just need a local DNS that points to the right spot locally, and let your public DNS point for external connections.

        As for the hosts file, you can see a guide here for windows/linux/mac. Basically this is a override of any DNS entries. Here you can point jellyfin.domain.com to your jellyfin servers LAN IP and test the connection works.

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        I feel you can’t access because your router doesn’t loop back connections to your own IP. To fix that you might need to run a local dns that routes traffic to that domain to your local machine, you can do that running a service like dnsmasq and pointing your router to that service instead of the default dns (and always set a secondary DNS in case your service fails)