I blocked Hexbear and they made accounts on lemmy.ml. if I block lemmy.ml they’ll just make accounts somewhere else. We need to collectively become aware of the problem and deal with it together.
Deal with them just like regular trolls. You shouldn’t be like the Muskrat cultists who think content moderation is useless and thus should be given up on. I understand, I suffered from activism burnout on the regular (one was right in the middle of an election campaign), but one should not give up easily.
That’s not at all what I am saying. I am saying it’s easier to do moderation on more centralised platforms like Reddit, because moderators simply have more power and more tools there. The flip side of that being that it makes it easier for moderators and admins to abuse and ban people without recourse. I am not saying moderation is pointless at all, just that it’s easier with one platform than the other. There are pros and cons to both models.
I would argue being open source and decentralised are major advantages of Lemmy and are more than sufficient to justify its existence. Just that it also isn’t perfect either. There are always trade-offs to be made when designing a platform, and that’s something you should always bear in mind.
Centralized platforms are also prone to the same kind of attacks. Kiwifarms and especially its users’ offshoot Discord and Matrix chatrooms are good example for this. Hell, even 4chan was infamous for organizing troll campaigns, first just “4 teh lulz”, then people turned the site into their personal army.
Yes, but it’s still way easier to pull off having multiple accounts and evading bans on lemmy
Comparing lemmy to 4chan is completely disingenuous. It has virtually no moderation by design. That’s what its whole reputation is staked on.
Discord is also a different kind of platform. You can’t read into servers you aren’t a part of, or participate in them. The dynamics there are very different, and most servers are invite only.
To me one of reddits main problems is their moderators and how overzealous they can be. I am relieved to see lemmy doesn’t give mods or site admins as much power over others, even if that causes problems from time to time. Someone else might see it differently though.
That’s a single instance, they can be blocked and avoided. The FOSS community is way more resiliant to enshittification.
I blocked Hexbear and they made accounts on lemmy.ml. if I block lemmy.ml they’ll just make accounts somewhere else. We need to collectively become aware of the problem and deal with it together.
Not really, their users make alts everywhere else too. It’s also quite easy just to keep setting up new instances too.
Deal with them just like regular trolls. You shouldn’t be like the Muskrat cultists who think content moderation is useless and thus should be given up on. I understand, I suffered from activism burnout on the regular (one was right in the middle of an election campaign), but one should not give up easily.
That’s not at all what I am saying. I am saying it’s easier to do moderation on more centralised platforms like Reddit, because moderators simply have more power and more tools there. The flip side of that being that it makes it easier for moderators and admins to abuse and ban people without recourse. I am not saying moderation is pointless at all, just that it’s easier with one platform than the other. There are pros and cons to both models.
I would argue being open source and decentralised are major advantages of Lemmy and are more than sufficient to justify its existence. Just that it also isn’t perfect either. There are always trade-offs to be made when designing a platform, and that’s something you should always bear in mind.
Centralized platforms are also prone to the same kind of attacks. Kiwifarms and especially its users’ offshoot Discord and Matrix chatrooms are good example for this. Hell, even 4chan was infamous for organizing troll campaigns, first just “4 teh lulz”, then people turned the site into their personal army.
Yes, but it’s still way easier to pull off having multiple accounts and evading bans on lemmy
Comparing lemmy to 4chan is completely disingenuous. It has virtually no moderation by design. That’s what its whole reputation is staked on.
Discord is also a different kind of platform. You can’t read into servers you aren’t a part of, or participate in them. The dynamics there are very different, and most servers are invite only.
To me one of reddits main problems is their moderators and how overzealous they can be. I am relieved to see lemmy doesn’t give mods or site admins as much power over others, even if that causes problems from time to time. Someone else might see it differently though.
Reddit also has a ton of money they can dedicate to countering disinformation compared to no budget for it in the Fediverse.