• frezik@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    Congratulations! You just created market forces in the labour market that will have winners and losers.

    Yes. Market Socialism (which would have supply and demand and competing worker-owned firms) doesn’t solve everything. I advocate for it because I think it’s a good, achievable medium-term goal that would be a vast improvement over what we have now. Something we could see in my lifetime. Once we get things there, workers are in a better position to advocate for further changes, like dumping money altogether.

    However, there’s plenty of people who think we should jump right past that and into the Anarco-Communist end goal.

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      One of the ideals of being a cooperative is “cooperation among cooperatives” as dictated by the Rochdale Principles. So by definition worker co-ops shouldn’t be competing with each other. Instead consolidation of corporations to force a sort of cooperation to increase profit we’ll ideally have worker cooperatives working with producer co-ops for example.

      Not entirely sure the implications of supply and demand market forces but I imagine its a step up from our current system. We’ll have democratically controlled work places where workers dictact the direction of supply and not necessarily for the sole purpose of increasing profits. In any case what I think we need is a new systematic way of measuring the growth of an economy in conjunction with worker co-ops.

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        3 months ago

        That would likely happen on its own. If the UAW took over everything at Ford and GM, they would likely merge the companies, because why not? Even in industries where unions don’t straddle companies like that, it’s only a matter of time.

        But that happens after they take over.

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      achievable medium-term goal that would be a vast improvement over what we have now

      Yup.

      people who think we should jump right past that and into the Anarco-Communist end goal

      Well good luck to them on getting that done in any society with a reasonably functional democracy.