• crashfrog@sopuli.xyz
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    The same Hezbollah that claim this was an “act of war” and in nothing I can find give any indication of non Hezbollah casualties?

    Why would Hezbollah report non-Hezbollah casualties? They’re not the government of Lebanon.

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      You wrote that fewer than .1% of casualties from the detonations were not hezbollah. When asked for a source you wrote: hezbollah. When pressed for a source you’ve now countered: “why would hezbollah report that?”.

      We don’t know; it’s your premise. Where did you get that stat?

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      Didn’t you say they were the ones who reported your non-Hezbollah casualty figure though?

      You could just link to what you’re talking about, that might clear up any confusion.

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        Didn’t you say they were the ones who reported your non-Hezbollah casualty figure though?

        I don’t have any “non-Hezbollah casualty figures.” I’m assuming that any casualties Hezbollah doesn’t claim are the civilians.

        You could just link to what you’re talking about

        I’m still not understand what you’re finding unclear.

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      Yes, and that would be why we are wondering how that would be proof of a lack of non-Hezbollah casualties.

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        Well, if you subtract the Hezbollah casualties from the total casualties, there’s hardly any casualties left.

        Are you asking for a source for arithmetic, or something?

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          Oh good thing you told us where that info was then. Its not like the numbers of victims are still unknown or unaccounted for. Its also great that you provided all that evidence of “guilt” for everyone injured.

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            en. Its not like the numbers of victims are still unknown or unaccounted for.

            How many are those? Why would there be any unaccounted victims at all?

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              It’s hundreds of explosions, some of which were in cars (presumably causing car accidents) and crowded areas. It was terrifying. Victims may not want to come forward since it connects them with a group of people being targeted with fucking bombs, something they personally witnessed. They don’t want to be next. Or they don’t want people to think their deceased loved one was a terrorist.

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                It’s hundreds of explosions, some of which were in cars (presumably causing car accidents) and crowded areas.

                A person injured in a crowded area would be rapidly attended to and accounted for, especially by now, two days later.

                If there’s an unaccounted victim, it’s somebody off by themselves with a Hezbollah pager and thus not a civilian. So this argument actually works against you.

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                  Have you ever worked in emergency medicine or been in an accident? Someone could have been hit with shrapnel and hid it due to sheer adrenaline. People have been shot in mass shootings and had limbs bit off by sharks and not really “noticed.” It’s entirely possible to keep going/dissociate from an injury if you think that the bombing event will continue, if you’re still in danger, if you think acknowledging your wound will put you in danger. Or if you think people will assume your innocent kid that got killed was a terrorist, you might want to lie about how they died so you can have a nice funeral and people won’t remember them like that or accuse your family of being terrorists.

                  There’s also shrapnel from car accidents as well as shrapnel from the bombs.

                  I’m not actually arguing, I was answering your question about why some injuries may have gone unreported by people who weren’t Hezbollah. However, I would say that any groups of innocent casualties seems to show that the attacks were not very specific as originally criticized.

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                    Have you ever worked in emergency medicine or been in an accident? Someone could have been hit with shrapnel and hid it due to sheer adrenaline. People have been shot in mass shootings and had limbs bit off by sharks and not really “noticed.” It’s entirely possible to keep going/dissociate from an injury if you think that the bombing event will continue, if you’re still in danger, if you think acknowledging your wound will put you in danger. Or if you think people will assume your innocent kid that got killed was a terrorist, you might want to lie about how they died so you can have a nice funeral and people won’t remember them like that or accuse your family of being terrorists.

                    Ok, can we talk about things that aren’t made up, now? Israel didn’t send sharks to Lebanon.