• Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    18 days ago

    Anime is just the Japanese word for animation. Anime isn’t a genre, it’s an entire medium in a specific country. By some definitions, an entire continent. Drag can’t think of any good reason to dislike animation but only when Asians do it.

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      18 days ago

      There are absolutely a ton of tropes very unique to Japanese animation but not necessarily other country’s animation.

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          18 days ago

          Obviously, but there are things that are pretty uniquely anime not as present in other media and if someone dislikes those then that’s why they might dislike anime but not all animation.

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            18 days ago

            I think the problem is you’re saying you don’t like anime, as a global singular thing. I might not like most sandwiches if I don’t like white bread, but some sandwiches are made using different bread, so I don’t universally dislike sandwiches. I dislike the ones I’ve tried. (I don’t dislike sandwiches. This is a hypothetical.)

            Personally, I don’t think anyone should ever say they dislike a group of things, especially if they have little experience with it like I assume you do with anime. You can dislike what you’ve experienced, but you probably should not try to apply that experience to everything or assume you know more than what you’ve experienced. It needlessly limits your experiences and it makes it more of a personality trait, which you’re unlikely to challenge, which you may think sounds cool but it isn’t a good thing.

            Edit: I’m also not saying you need to watch anime. I choose to not do many things because I don’t expect to like it. I tend to not assume a won’t just because of preconceived ideas though. I just don’t bother with it, and I don’t need to be adamant that I don’t like it.

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              18 days ago

              If you can find an anime that is entirely unlike all the mainstream anime, do let me know. I’m trying to pin down the exact element it is that I don’t like, and so far it seems to be the exaggerated expression of emotion and actions, but maybe you have a counterpoint.

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                18 days ago

                Some people don’t consider it to be anime, but if you like subtlety, then you’ll probably like Samurai Jack.

                Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind is universally regarded to be fantastic and sure doesn’t have many of the annoying tropes of modern anime. It’s from 1984. It’s very heavily environmentalist and antiwar, and also just beautiful to look at. Drag’s #1 recommendation.

                If your problem is actually with the childishness of many anime and everything being too “kawaii”, then try out JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Phantom Blood. From episode 2 onwards, the main character is a grown adult built like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. It’s still exaggerated and frankly ridiculous, but the artstyle is mature and gothic in a way that might appeal to you. It’s still a shonen (Designed for the sensibilities of male children), but it doesn’t have annoying kids for main characters.

                Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor is another example of a mature but ridiculous show. And it’s ridiculous in a very grounded way. Kaiji is an unemployed loser who signs up for an illegal gambling tournament where the consequence for losing is literal slavery on the black market. No fantasy or science fiction themes, just a man past the brink of desperation trying to survive. The emotions are exaggerated compared to real life, but they feel incredibly grounded in the context of the show.

                Drag tried watching Assassination Classroom and didn’t like it, but maybe you will. It’s a very slow burn mainly focusing on personal relationships between a class of students and their teacher. It would be far from drag’s first recommendation, but maybe worth a try.

                Drag would also like to suggest Kamen Rider even though drag is certain you won’t like it. See, it’s live action, but filmed very much like an anime. It’s the Japanese equivalent of Power Rangers and is created purely to sell toys to children. You’ll probably find it annoying, and experiencing that annoyance in a live action format might give you more clues as to what exactly you dislike. Kamen Rider Build is a good one to start with.

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                  17 days ago

                  experiencing that annoyance in a live action format might give you more clues as to what exactly you dislike

                  Just for this, drag already has my respect. That is an incredibly analytical approach to the topic.

                  I’ll get to the list later, but I wanted to express my appreciation for that sentiment.

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                18 days ago

                I don’t watch much anime, so I can’t help. Maybe someone else will.

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            18 days ago

            The Emoji movie is uniquely American, but if someone refuses to watch Saving Private Ryan because it’s from the same country as Emoji movie, then they’re a big silly.

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              That’s a bizarre comparison. It’s more like someone saying they don’t want to watch Saving Private Ryan because they don’t like movies. Even then, many people who “don’t like anime” might like an anime or two out of many they’ve tried. Like if someone hates all ice creams except they sort of like mint chocolate chip, then saying “I don’t like ice cream” is okay to say.