• jaschen@lemm.ee
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      10 hours ago

      If a pedophile sexualizes fake AI children in his basement but is a productive human in society and never acts in real life. Do you think this person deserves to be in jail?

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        A: all models are trained on something

        2, you’re building your own straw man here. You’ve set up an extremely narrow condition under which this particular type of pedophilia is acceptable. Prove to me that that’s the norm, that it’s a typical use scenario, and that people looking at that crap are exclusively looking at loli, and not images meant to look like real people, and there’s a debate to be had there. But if you think any of that is true you’re lying to yourself. Sexualization of others is not going to happen in a vacuum under sterile conditions, it’s going to bleed in to real life.

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          Prove to me that removing this will not bleed into real life even more than it is not? You can’t either.

          What I can prove is that Japan has csam cartoons for decades and they have less CSA per Capita than the USA. Is it possible that the Japanese know something we don’t? Who knows.

          Can you prove to me that the AI trained models were done with real csam materials? If so, not reporting this to the FBI seems irresponsible.

    • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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      10 hours ago

      That’s like saying the only people who bake wedding cakes are bakers…

      I mean yeah. But what of it? Or are you already implying a level of abuse and connotation to the mental disorder?

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        9 hours ago

        The act of baking does indeed make you a baker. Definitionally.

        Just because you aren’t going pro doesn’t mean you aren’t making a cake.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Sure but like I asked above, if porn reduces rapes, how do we know that this (gross) doesn’t reduce children being sexually assaulted. I can’t think of a single safe way it could be tested or monitored to find the better long term evil