• MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Decentralization is is unobtainable. You have to have a source of truth. DNS has shown us the way, everyone else is fucking around.

    Gotta have a trusted org to manage identities.

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      4 days ago

      Yesn’t. Yes we have DNS, which is bad enough. But the internet itself was build to be resistant and distributed. DNS is distributed, but not decentralized. However, decentralized protocols (read BitTorrent protocols, etc.) do exist, and does make it more decentralized. Without the need of DNS.

      I’m never doing to trust a single org or group to control a large group of users/people or projects. Never.

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        4 days ago

        Nothing that involves authoritative state of data can be decentralized. Ultimately something is a source of truth. Who decides what the torrent data is? Congratulations, your system is now centralized.

        Decentralized systems are anarchist mastubatory fantasy, distributed systems are what runs the world.

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          3 days ago

          I believe you still have no idea how BitTorrent protocol works if you reply with such a comment.

          What torrent data? I’m not talking about any data! I’m talking about decentralized protocols. Not the data that goes over it.

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      4 days ago

      You can spin up your own instance to ensure you have a custom username suffix. That’s literally all anyone needs to distinguish themselves from fake accounts. Trusting any org to remain a neutral authority is a mistake and a bigger risk than getting users to agree on an accurate source based on a suffix.

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        4 days ago

        This is a neckbeard dream, and it is why activity pub will never take off.

        Grandma ain’t running her own instance, but she can swipe her card and get “grandmahotstuff.com” tied to her ATproto DID.

        As long as the did is maintained by a neutral org like let’s encrypt, and icann remains functional, it’s a superior model, as those orgs are now tied to the functioning of the internet itself.

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          3 days ago

          Grandma’s not gonna need a unique suffix and if she does she’ll likely be the kind of person who can figure out how to get it done. Not everyone needs advanced functionality, just like not everyone needs a blue check.

          I’m not trying to argue against your concerns but IMO you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill.