- Number of hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water (H2O): 2
- Number of stars in our (ENTIRE) solar system: 1
That’s the joke.
Thanks, I never would have been able to understand 2>1 if you hadn’t written up that amazing power point slide.
It’s 2 > 1, so correct two hydrogens versus one star: Sol
O sole mio!
What about celebrities?
Celebrities contain more than two hydrogens, true.
Iits not a lot, but it’s crazy that it happened twice.
My autopilot brain kept skipping over molecule and missing the joke lol.
There are fewer hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are fingers on my hand.
Check and mate.
Ken M made a similar joke a while back right?
Infeel like this gets reposted here at least once a month, but this one has a different t pic, and way more likes
Obligatory “what about Jupiter”
Okay, I’ll bite. “what about it?”
It’s a Y-class brown dwarf star. Saturn likely is as well.
Today, the International Astronomical Union places the dividing line between brown dwarfs and planets at 13 Jupiter masses. This is the minimum mass required to ignite deuterium fusion.
IAU is well known for coming up with shitty arbitrary classifications about nomenclature that many astronomers don’t agree with. They are wrong here because they don’t take into account post-Cassini/Juno understanding of gas giant morphology. The IAU definition is outdated and highly misleading.
Copied from another reply I gave in this thread:
I’ve seen 13 MJ argued as a boundary, but it’s selected somewhat arbitrarily and based around idealized models of Deuterium fusion, which has never been observed, and which is a process these brown dwarves would only undergo for a brief flash in their early life. Deuterium isn’t abundant enough for its fusion to significantly alter the stellar morphology that has already become established for objects larger than Saturn. Saturn is our solarsystem’s example of an object that does not fit cleanly into one side or the other of a mass-based binary classification scheme for determining a hard boundary between “planet” and “star”. To understand what is a planet vs what is a star, study Saturn.
Ok, that’s interesting! I didn’t realize there was controversy around this definition.
The planet definition that excluded pluto was decided upon at the end of an IAU conference after most planetary scientists had left. As a result, only dynamicists are happy with it. Planetary geologists in particular HATE it and have always vocally pushed back.
And if you want more, check out what I said last time this meme was posted.
As someone who worked as an astrophysicist for 9 years, I assure you that the question of “what is a planet?” is a nuanced discussion with a lot of diverse opinions and no clear answer that gets endlessly debated by students as they learn that these definitions aren’t as cut and dry as irresponsible science communicators made it seem during the disastrous and highly politically motivated demotion of Pluto to dwarf planet.
I’d say Jupiter would need to be about 3 times massive to count as one. And more realistically around 10ish.
Based on what criteria?
Jupiter is large enough for the hydrogen to become a plasma and dissolve the rocky “planetary” core that was once at the center. Morphologically, it has passed the transition from planet to star. Saturn appears to be somewhere along that transition and is harder to cleanly classify.
Morphologically, Jupiter is a star.
I’ve seen 13 MJ argued as a boundary, but it’s selected somewhat arbitrarily and based around idealized models of Deuterium fusion, which has never been observed, and which is a process these brown dwarves would only undergo for a brief flash in their early life. Deuterium isn’t abundant enough for its fusion to significantly alter the stellar morphology that has already become established for objects larger than Saturn. Saturn is our solarsystem’s example of an object that does not fit cleanly into one side or the other of a mass-based binary classification scheme for determining a hard boundary between “planet” and “star”. To understand what is a planet vs what is a star, study Saturn.
So do we not count the mini suns being created at places like Livermore Labs? 🤔
We can’t make plasma dense enough to have significant convention over radiance, and the longest active run is only a minute or so. We’re a good way away from plasma stable enough to be called a star, although it’s getting closer. Hydrogen bombs are probably the closest we have so far.
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Me: That doesn’t seem right. OH. Oh, I am stupid.
The glass of water is a bit misleading. Your brain starts thinking about all the water molecules inside. That’s all.
*OH2
I am impressed by how clever that was. Well done.
It’s almost impossible to see the last two words because your brain is already reeling from the rest of the statement. It took me a few tries to finally parse it.
Not stupid. Our brain can just get tripped up sometimes and read what it expects to read instead of what’s really there. The sad part is that there are educated people in the US even today that would be surprised or even argue against you if you stated the other version (more atoms in a glass than in our galaxy). Our science education is woefully lacking now.
What blew me away that I learned not too long ago is the notion that if the galaxy was the size of the US, our solar system would be the size of a fingerprint. Try to even visualize that. (reference is the Epic Spaceman YT channel)
We had a young, hippy science teacher through 70s grade school. Looking back, that woman made more impact on my life than any other teacher.
Every year, every fucking year, she’d start with the difference in fact and opinion. “Yeah, I get it already. Can we move on?” Apparently not many others got that bit of education.
She taught the scientific method and how it works, she taught how to experiment, how to measure. I still set a beaker down and wait for it to settle before moving on. And I’m not in science!
NGL our solar system being the size of a finger print is (somehow) bigger than I expected.
Another fun size thing I heard recently was that if an atom were the size of a football stadium then the nucleus would be the size of a pea.
A fingerprint? That’s actually bigger than I figured.
I very slowly zoomed in on the actual words in the post.
Started off processing “molecule” as “mole”, “solar system” as “galaxy”, and thinking “ha, don’t know if that’s true but it sounds both plausible and neat”.
There are definitely more hydrogen atoms in a mole of water than stars in the Milky Way.
The Milky Way has somewhere between 100 and 400 billion stars according to Wikipedia (
1*10^11
to4*10^11
). A mole of water has6.022*10^23
molecules in it, each of which has two hydrogen atoms in it for a total of1.2044*10^24
hydrogen atoms.10^24 / 10^11 = 10^13
which is ten trillion. So, a mole of water has roughly ten trillion times as many hydrogen atoms as the Milky Way has stars.Chad water / virgin Milky Way
Imagine how many more moles of hydrogen the Milky way must have than a single mole of water
Wasn’t thinking moles, not that technical, but it sounded plausible vs. the number of stars in the Milky Way.
Wait…
That is a masterfully crafted mansplaining trap.
Chappeau.
Hat
That’s actually just the first part of the phrase. The whole thing is “je ne suis pas français, chappeau”
edit: Ok this was supposed to be a joke about mansplaining something you know nothing about, but we fell into Poe’s law.
just the first part of the phrase
Seems to me like it was the last part of the phrase.
Actually it’s the middle
Ah okay, what’s the full phrase?
je ne suis pas français, chappeau
I tried googling this to see if I was missing some reference or something and it led to strange google behavior I’ve never seen before… When I search “je ne suis pas français, chappeau” without the quotation marks, Google automatically changes the French to English in the search bar when I hit the search button.
Anyone else experienced this? For what possible fucking purpose would that exist?
I didn’t get that behavior, but no significant result to explain the expression either.
But on the topic of weird behaviors, try to get copilot or meta AI to make a sign or an image for you with a phrase in a different language than your own.
They always translate it, I can’t get them to keep the exact text at all.
Huh, this is an interesting intercultural communiaction trap.
In my area, this is just used as a shorthand/slang/idiom for “nice, i respect that” or in place of a nod or “thank you”
Edit: i should add, that as far as i know, a chappeau is a type of cap or hat? Right? have to google that.
edit2: yes, a hat. The origin of the use I know for it is probably a salute where you touch your finger or hand to the hat, or lifting the hat.
Here saying “hat” seems to be enough :D
Click here if you don't understand
There is only one star in our solar system - the Sun.
I really need to read better, I still thought it said galaxy.
And if you somehow still don't get it, click here
Meanwhile, there are two hydrogen atoms in a water molecule - H2O
If you're still having trouble, click here
2 is greater than 1
And if all of this continues to elude you, click here
You just lost The GameTM.
Drats, it seems I’ve been outplayed! ಠಗಠ
Only if they are good things. 2 people trying to stab you, not greater than 1. Pessimism, the negative perspective. Only in math do we hold onto those darn dashes
2 people trying to stab you, not greater than 1
From the Hollywoo rule of attackering protagonists, more attackers mean more ways to foil them by misdirection and mutual banging each other, therefore 2>1.
I’ve seen this described as Conservation of Ninjitsu, the more mooks Our Hero must face, the less competent each of those mooks will be.
Plot armor set at 100 but if suddely someone gets a lot more screen screen time and is told how important they are to to people, they get a -75 to their armor for the next 20 minutes of runtime.
Much like that 5 minute gap in a romcom where their int. hits 0 for 5 minutes and they fail to be able to ask a single question and just steam roll what they act like is a tank into a square but really ends up being that it was a misunderstanding.
This guy is right, we need an asterisk.
We need the same number of stars in our solar system equivalent of CCs of asterisk in here, stat.
I have no idea who you are, but the fact that you said I was right about something means I completely agree with you. …what was I right about?
Well frankly that’s just none of your business.
Sexy and secretive. Keep it up stranger. Flattery and denial will get you far in life. Haha
i don’t understand
why are you quoting the sun?
I understand
It’s clearly short for “Sun Wukong.”
Yes, the “if you don’t understand the joke” comment explains the joke. That’s the point.
There are more memes estimating the size of the universe than there are stars in the galaxy.
Solar system.
You’ll have to prove this one.
With greater hydrogen comes greater responsibility.
Like twice as much