Guys, at this rate I don’t think the revolution’s going to happen anytime soon.

  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    22 hours ago

    If landlords can assume every tenant they’ll ever see has 2,000 plus their income, then they can just set rent to be 2,000 plus

    You are assuming a world where landlords are all powerful assholes operating as a cartel. UBI redistributes power both at the supreme government level, and at individual relations levels. Everyone has “I won’t do what you tell me” money even if it is not quite the “fuck you” money you currently think landlords have. “Oppressive fuck you” money only exists in a world of corrupt markets.

    if UBI is $1500/month, there is certain to be a rise in the number of housing options that rent for $1000-$2000. UBI empowers you and 10 of your friends to get into the real estate business and build more homes, and make a lot of money doing so. Your fear makes UBI more attractive because current social corruption suppresses new housing because scarce housing has a large cohort benefiting from extortionist property values. UBI benefiting that cohort is good for democratic appeal of UBI.

    Humanist economics is abundance instead of scarcity. Creating abundant housing or abundant anything else is a huge job creator. UBI also allows for room mates/subleasing where you are sure tenants can afford to pay. Denser living is also abundance. Market solutions for housing exist. Government getting into the housing construction business on a break even target basis with market affordability (small) mission, is a 0 cost government program to promote abundance, and can be done locally.

    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      and make a lot of money doing so.

      I don’t want people to make a lot of money off of housing. Why would I want that?

      Look, people had more relative income before, and rent is too high now. If UBI gives people more income now, rent will be too high later. There need to be rent caps. UBI alone doesn’t fix the fundamental problem.

      I mean, at best you’re saying that laissez-faire competition will make rent caps unnecessary, to which I say great! Let’s add them anyway. No one will ever set rent as high as the cap, so there should be no problem.