They can insist on being fairly paid, but the users have to think the transaction is fair as well. Ask Digg how much their platform was worth when all of the users were gone.
I would say the majority of posts on Reddit are admin ran karma bots and scammers. Just a bunch of bots talking to themselves.
Its hard to say and I really wonder about this. Specifically, I think there is a lot of astro turfing, but not in the way most people think it is. I think very specific subreddits like r/marvel, formula one, celebrity news (which only really started making it to the front page in earnest 2 months ago), are some how in cahoots with reddit to sponsor their popularity. The game goes like this: you work with reddit to astroturf organic engagement with the channel, and over time, organic engagement takes over.
I think this is how Reddit makes real money and I wonder if they give two wiffs of piss about the embedded ads. I think you can attribute the success the modern marvel franchises have seen as well as the success that the modern star wars series saw to astroturfed social media campaigns on reddit.
Its pure conspiracy, I have no evidence other than watching the way that reddit has evolved.
I believe this 100%. I was just permabanned after 10 years on reddit without a single ‘violation.’ It started with a ban from /r/news for what I can only assume was replying to the wrong mod with something they didn’t like. Then a few days later a ban from /r/movies for mentioning piracy. I had a couple alts that I cycled through and made the egregious mistake of accidently leaving a comment in both subs as I was scrolling through my Frontpage on a different account. Boom – back to back 7 day bans and then a permaban for ‘ban evasion.’
During my time there I definitely noticed that recently things seem to be getting worse with bots and scammers and subs toeing more and more of the corporate line (like my ban from /r/movies for mentioning piracy) or pushing some agenda. I’ve seen numerous articles posted to /r/science recently with misleading editorialized headlines that don’t even match the study they’re linking to. When pointing this rule breaking violation out, my comments were deleted. Then with many other of the formerly default subs, we have tons of repost bots able to freely recycle content with more bots recycling popular comments from previous reposts every single day.
Seems like this would be a good way to make subs seem more active than they really are, users are more active then they really are, and subs more advertising/corporate friendly right before their IPO. Both Facebook and Twitter have been caught lying about the number of bots for this same reason in the recent past.
I’ve also been wondering if this blackout is all orchestrated by reddit using some of these major corporate controlled subs. As if reddit sets this ridiculous API cost, major subs claim they’ll go dark until things change, smaller subs follow suit, and then reddit comes back with a number 50% (or whatever) lower than previously stated. People will claim victory for getting reddit to change their mind but what they’ve really done is hoodwink everyone using what’s called Price Anchoring. This leads people to believe that the ‘50%’ price is a “great deal” without realizing that this was their real intent all along, but they served it to us in a way that made us feel like we won in the process.
They can insist on being fairly paid, but the users have to think the transaction is fair as well. Ask Digg how much their platform was worth when all of the users were gone.
I would say the majority of posts on Reddit are admin ran karma bots and scammers. Just a bunch of bots talking to themselves.
Its hard to say and I really wonder about this. Specifically, I think there is a lot of astro turfing, but not in the way most people think it is. I think very specific subreddits like r/marvel, formula one, celebrity news (which only really started making it to the front page in earnest 2 months ago), are some how in cahoots with reddit to sponsor their popularity. The game goes like this: you work with reddit to astroturf organic engagement with the channel, and over time, organic engagement takes over.
I think this is how Reddit makes real money and I wonder if they give two wiffs of piss about the embedded ads. I think you can attribute the success the modern marvel franchises have seen as well as the success that the modern star wars series saw to astroturfed social media campaigns on reddit.
Its pure conspiracy, I have no evidence other than watching the way that reddit has evolved.
I believe this 100%. I was just permabanned after 10 years on reddit without a single ‘violation.’ It started with a ban from /r/news for what I can only assume was replying to the wrong mod with something they didn’t like. Then a few days later a ban from /r/movies for mentioning piracy. I had a couple alts that I cycled through and made the egregious mistake of accidently leaving a comment in both subs as I was scrolling through my Frontpage on a different account. Boom – back to back 7 day bans and then a permaban for ‘ban evasion.’
During my time there I definitely noticed that recently things seem to be getting worse with bots and scammers and subs toeing more and more of the corporate line (like my ban from /r/movies for mentioning piracy) or pushing some agenda. I’ve seen numerous articles posted to /r/science recently with misleading editorialized headlines that don’t even match the study they’re linking to. When pointing this rule breaking violation out, my comments were deleted. Then with many other of the formerly default subs, we have tons of repost bots able to freely recycle content with more bots recycling popular comments from previous reposts every single day.
Seems like this would be a good way to make subs seem more active than they really are, users are more active then they really are, and subs more advertising/corporate friendly right before their IPO. Both Facebook and Twitter have been caught lying about the number of bots for this same reason in the recent past.
I’ve also been wondering if this blackout is all orchestrated by reddit using some of these major corporate controlled subs. As if reddit sets this ridiculous API cost, major subs claim they’ll go dark until things change, smaller subs follow suit, and then reddit comes back with a number 50% (or whatever) lower than previously stated. People will claim victory for getting reddit to change their mind but what they’ve really done is hoodwink everyone using what’s called Price Anchoring. This leads people to believe that the ‘50%’ price is a “great deal” without realizing that this was their real intent all along, but they served it to us in a way that made us feel like we won in the process.