Will something be done about moderators owning 50+ magazines/communities and counting? Already seeing power mods migrate from Reddit trying to hoard as many communities as possible.

  • CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Do you think they are actively trying to become moderators of those communities or is there a chance they’re trying to recreate the subreddits they’re accustomed to?

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        Tells me they like modding and are likely pretty OK at it? Some of them definitely suck and abuse their power, but just because someone mods a lot of communities doesn’t mean they’re a bad mod or shouldn’t be a mod.

        I’ve created some communities that got pretty big and are still around even though I am no longer modding and I can tell you this: Modding is a shitty, thankless, unpaid job.

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        The way that the fediverse works should make it more challenging for someone to squat on communities. There are plenty of instances which means there is plenty of competition. Am I missing something?

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          I’ve seen at least one problematic individual I know from Reddit on here, creating and requesting communities en masse.

          They even had the gall to enter the Instance Administrators Matrix chat and ask dessalines why community requests were taking so long.

          I’m not sure if they’ve quite understood how the fediverse works.

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          That’s not exactly how it works, FMA in communities and groups is usually that most users will likely consolidate towards single locations over time, lemmy.ml being one of the larger instances. Just because other communities can be created on other instances doesn’t mean there is any actual competition (once late into the game), unless the communities themselves are so far broken or unusable or poorly moderated that a migration event does occur elsewhere.

          It’s the reason why subreddits like /r/pics have millions of subscribers and /r/pics2 is barren. Sure, it’s not exactly the closest analogy, but lemmy.ml isn’t going anywhere. Once adoption occurs, say in a few years time, do you think people are going to move communities?

          Regardless, there isn’t an argument for an individual user to be able to be moderator of several dozens to hundreds of communities.

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            I still don’t get it. If a r/pics mod goes to lemmy.ml and makes c/pics, I can go to lemmy.ca and make c/pics, and you can go to kbin and make m/pics. You’re right that probably one of those pics communities is going to end up being the favorite but that doesn’t mean the others can’t post good relevant content. Also no one needs to “move communities” you can subscribe to every version of pics that that exists. I’m subscribed to multiple different communities of the same topic because each of them are going to have their own slant or take on the topic. Over time the content and comments will be what determines my favorite of them, not which is the biggest.

            On the fediverse I think content is king, much more than anywhere else, simply because there can be so many versions of the same topic. The one that rises to the top will be content based, not based on server or who the owner is. I can create 50 communities, but can I post 50 communities worth of good content and foster 50 communities worth of good comments? I mean, maybe. But probably not.

          • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
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            Yeah, I do think people will move communities. This happened all the time on reddit when a mod or mods were being terrible and it’s even easier to do on Lemmy, so that is very likely to happen.

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    If you’re concerned, just don’t sub to them. Just creating communities in itself shouldn’t really be a problem, I’d rather hope for the best than assume that every person making these is a power hungry basement slug.

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      That’s fair but my assessment is rather than enabling that behavior, cut it off at the source by limiting the number of communities to be made per user. Sure, there’ll be alt accounts, but it’s better than just looking the other way and pulling another Reddit.

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        But that isn’t the point of Lemmy.

        The developers have no control over what communities get created by design.

        Anyone can become an admin, so Reddit power mods can go to the friendliest servers or create their own.

        The system is designed to not be able to enforce what your are describing.

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    Squatting and similar problems should be solved by the admins of an instance, not the whole “environment”. And you can be fairly certain that someone squatting on 10+ communities won’t be able to nurture them, they’ll be eventually outcompeted by the others.

  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
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    The fediverse kind of inherently limits this: You can make the same community on another Lemmy or a similar community on the same Lemmy.

    If communities want to relocate to here, I see no problem with that and if the mods suck then folks can always jump ship to a new community.

    Realistically, there’s no good way to stop a person from running multiple communities and frankly, I don’t think it would be a good idea to do that anyways.

  • Whitt@lemmy.nz
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    What’s the problem with this?

    If they can moderate that many groups to the standard each community is happy with is it an issue?

    • neonfire@kbin.social
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      Centralized power in the hands of a few is a bad thing. People have been complaining about power-tripping Reddit power mods for years.

      Because what happens when they don’t mod to the standard the community wants?