All my boots are made for walking. And that’s just what they do.

Thirty or so years ago Gorbachev’s decision to allow elections with a multi-party system and create a presidency for the Soviet Union began a process of democratization that eventually destabilized Communist control and contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union. The remnants of the old Communist party can be found today on lemmygrad.

I do not aspire to be a volunteer internet janitor.

OP on the first of the month: Good morning, renters!

Don’t act like that wouldn’t make you happy.

When giving hugs, I never let go first. Though I let go promptly when the other person does. You never know much of a hug the other person needs.

Yep. I get it. It’s going to be really fucking uncomfortable. I’ll be hungry, thirsty, sore, and will lose my concept of time. And then I’ll have a million dollars. How long will it take you to earn a million dollars in any other fashion? Unless your Jeff Bezos you’ll have much more accumulated discomfort and assorted bullshit over that period of time than just dealing with it all at once. This is a easy decision.

Then absolutely. Is this even a hard question for any rationale person?

😂🤣😂

This kind of “I live in my babushkas basement” neckbeard shit is why nobody ever worries that your cause will take over.

I am continually flabbergasted that people don’t know this. HR is not your friend.

This makes complete sense. But let’s not act like Europe isn’t just a peninsula of Asia.

Haha. Now you’re just copying me. How sad. If you want to be an effective troll you have to actually find something that is true, original, or stings a little. But I’m more or less invincible to a spam bot like yourself. Because my life is your best case scenario and your life is my worst case. You could walk away from this conversation whenever you want, but your fragile ego won’t let you because your internet persona is all you have. Actually, I’ll show you how it’s done. Toodles, princess. Best of luck in your future astroturfing endeavors 😂🤣😂

Lol. You’d have to leave your babushkas basement before you can try and make my life as shitty as yours. Astroturf all you want, and I know you will because it’s all you’ve got, but you’ll still be you. And I’ll still be me. And that’s a massive fucking “L” for you.

Wait, you don’t get paid? You’re this much of a terminally online, lemmygrad schmuck, for free? That’s even sadder! 😂🤣😂. Ohmahgawd.

Edit: the mental picture of you furiously logging into your alts to downvote this thread, as if that means anything, is hilarious. Cope and seethe , little buddy.

Awwwh. You should be prouder of what you are. And if what you are is embarrassing to you, maybe you should not do those things? It’s not to late to give up the Rubles. They’re basically worthless anyway.

Take a read through OPs post history. They and their identical alts are bought and paid for astroturfing accounts.

Not every society forces you to seek wage labour. This is only the case in capitalism.

What’s an example of a society that doesn’t require work?

You seem really hung up on the term” wage labor”. That’s not the only way to create or store value. But it is the most efficient. We could completely eliminate “money” but the concept of value would remain. And cooperation would only be more difficult and less efficient if I didn’t want to barter my chicken for your potato. Money, and “wage labor, regardless of who pays your wages, allow for the transfer of goods and services between individuals who don’t need the others goods or services now.

The government would hunt them down.

No they wouldn’t. Because except for your family and friends, nobody gives a fuck about you. It’s hilarious that y’all think this is even a possibility. I mean seriously, if I went missing tomorrow, would you know or care? And if not, why would anyone else?

Are you really stating this as a genuine option?! Do you know how fucking expensive that is??

This is absolutely an option. People all over the world do it every day.

Agitating for class consciousness and solidarity with fellow workers

Moving seems easier, quicker, and more effective. But this could work too. Carry on.

Anyway, always fun to chat with college communists. Have a great day.

You can - to a degree - choose who you work for, but to no extent can you choose whether you work.

That’s literally how life and any society works. Let’s rewind all the way to the beginning. If OP doesn’t like working in a society they can fuck off to the wilderness. But! Frontier survival would actually be more work and danger and less free time. Or, OP can move. But it turns out Western societies generally have shorter work weeks than the rest of the world. So what’s OP left with? Misplaced angst and the glaring unwillingness to take control of their own life.

I read OPs post. I quoted it back to you. Both you, and OP, are implicitly arguing that you should be able to both fuck off AND have the benefits of society. That’s actually one of the perks of a functioning society where a member who is to old, sick, or otherwise unable to contribute can be taken care of. Do one of these apply to you or OP? If not, you’re no different than the “already rich assholes” except that you’re takers who are bad at capitalism.

Anyway. Have a nice day.

Because nowhere has anyone said they oppose cooperation.

That is what OP is saying. They want to know what we’d do if we weren’t forced to sell most of our time.

Boy howdy that seems like an ENORMOUS difference.

I agree. But again, that’s not what OP is talking about. As we’ve established, any society requires cooperative work. Neither you or OP has argued that another system wouldn’t require OP to “sell most of their time.” If you’d like to make this argument you might be interested to start here.