It was pretty surprising to read their first update that had it at $12 a month! Though my server is running on a $2 a month VPS (currently) and doing pretty well so when you don’t have too many users it doesn’t cost an awful lot to run (so long as your technical people are donating their time!)
There’s a financials post here: https://beehaw.org/post/416496
And near the bottom of this page you can see the donations made, the money actually spent, and their current balance: https://opencollective.com/beehaw
I wish I’d known about Beehaw earlier, though before this influx it seems there wasn’t a huge amount of content as the community was pretty small.
I have known about Lemmy for some time, but the more popular instances were basically filled with people who had been kicked off reddit for their views. It was not a welcoming place, so until now I hadn’t felt comfortable hanging around.
Are they not? The donation page says “This Collective’s Fiscal Host is a registered 501©(3) non-profit organization. Your contribution will be tax-deductible in the US, to the extent allowed by the law.”
I presumed this was based on the umbrella you were accepted under to be on opencollective?
I… can’t see anywhere where they are complaining? This was just a post about how much the server cost to run. They updated it over time with new numbers as they beefed up the server capacity. But the post basically says “Here’s how much it costs to run, and we have plenty of money”. I don’t see the complaining?
Oh I should have said, the oldest is 6. They have no idea what the song is, but they want me to play it for them… they don’t know what tiktok is.
Reading and responding to people and posts is contributing, and I would argue more important than starting new posts.
Yes! It’s who you ask when you aren’t sure what the idea, concept, or term is. Once you are armed with that information, use a proper search engine.
It helps to understand what ChatGPT is, and what it isn’t.
ChatGPT does not understand anything you say. And it only does one word (technically part of a word, but to keep it simple) at a time.
What it’s doing is it is guessing the most likely next word based on the words that have come before it. If you think of you phone’s keyboard, it probably has word suggestions for what to say next. ChatGPT is like hitting the recommended word over and over until it has an answer. It’s spouting words based on how likely the word is to come next. That is all.
It uses advanced machine learning to do that, but whether it counts as AI is for the reader to decide. But it’s certainly not planning out a thoughtful answer for you.
And that’s not even taking into account that the training data largely comes from the internet, the place where people continuously make shit up.
I mentioned Lemmy on Mastodon and some people noted some controversy surrounding the “main” instances. I don’t know exactly what concerned people
One of, if not the most active lemmy instance is a Marxist, pro-Russian war, pro-CCP, pro-North Korea community. When I signed up on lemmy.ml a while back, it was almost all you saw.
The problem with reddit alternatives is that, until now, the only people leaving reddit were the ones kicked off. They needed new homes and they found them in unmoderated communities they could host themselves, like lemmy.
Some of us have been waiting for some time for more “average” redditors to make the move, so this exodus is like Christmas coming early.
I played and enjoyed both. But I don’t think either 1 or 2 were as groundbreaking as the demo for 1. The demo was amazing, but then they took a year or two to get the full game out and by then it wasn’t really that interesting compared to other games that had come out in the meantime.
Budget Cuts 2 was basically more of what 1 was like. It was quite a while ago now that I played it, but it wasn’t groundbreaking as I recall.
Haha yes, it’s like a big foot reaching out to give reddit a kick in the pants: https://the-federation.info/node/details/25274
I think they might cave. Think of it like a negotiation.
John: Hey, we make zero from third party reddit apps, we should charge them
Fred: Well, they produce a lot of content, which is what keeps people on the site
John: Hmm, we should charge them anyway. Keep the shareholders happy. $1,000 per 50 million requests.
Fred: But won’t there be a big uproar?
John: Well, that will happen regardless of what we charge. If we think we can get away with charging $1000 per 50 million requests, let’s announce $12,000 per 50 million. Then we can walk back to $1,000 and everyone will think we’re being reasonable. If we started at $1,000 we’d probably have to walk it back to $100, and that’s a waste of time.
Fred: You’re brilliant, lock it in!
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/
I’ve known this for a while too, but it’s been hard finding something. I think Beehaw is what I’ve been looking for, because my first experience of Lemmy was… well let’s just say that it’s a lot more pleasant on a server that has chosen not to federate with certain other servers… it scared me off for a while.
I think it’s normal after a big surge to see participation drop off. If you can hit the critical mass to keep content flowing, that would be awesome.
And at least in the short term, it’s appreciated that the site is now running much smoother! That’s also important for retention of users :)
The Apollo dev comment on this. They have a subscription model already, but would need to more than double the cost just to meet the cost of the API.
They worked it out as $2.50 per month for the average user. But I’d be willing to bet that you’d have less users using it more if it cost that much, so it would need to be higher. And then you add taxes. And even then it’s all going to reddit, the dev gets nothing.
This is based on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/
It will be interesting to see how many users stick around. It’s busy right now but in a month you may be able to backtrack to the previous hardware.
Oh man I totally missed the other comment about it right next to mine…
I’ve seen your name around a bit (I guess as you’re an admin) and I just need to ask - Gaywallet? Is there a story?
I joined when you had under 1000 users total, now there are 1.3k online at this very moment. I can imagine it’s quite a strain!