Because the Dem party is the Republican party of yesterday, not of today.
In 2038+ when they are the ex Republicans and Democrats have “compromised” their way to the current Republican parties position, they’ll be there.
Because the Dem party is the Republican party of yesterday, not of today.
In 2038+ when they are the ex Republicans and Democrats have “compromised” their way to the current Republican parties position, they’ll be there.
They’re just supporting the same right wing Republican policies they have supported all along, the Dems just represent that viewpoint now.
Because it’s one of the few issues that the Democratic party and Republican party both tout as a problem.
Do they have bombs in them?
Nobody will stop them?
And the United States
Why does it really matter that issues can be “discussed” if the issue being discussed is as atrocious as what Israel is doing to Palestine.
Israel and the US know that what they’re doing is wrong. Them and their crony countries aren’t going to change course because of this.
It doesn’t exactly prevent WW2 if they tell Hitler to stop and he doesn’t listen…unless of course they choose to let him continue his goals unimpeded rather than go to war, citing their documented disagreement as sufficient counter action…
Damn, those Russian “orc hordes armed with shovels” sure are tough!
How many users does IG have that are registered as under 18?
I’m 25 now, but I still always say I was born in the 80s out of habit…
It’s a good step, but it won’t fix things.
The Zenocratic party
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I used to find it utterly hilarious before I switched to Lemmy, how redditorshated twitterx and twitterx users, then would praise reddit and the reddit community lmfao.
My handshake brings all the boys to the yard.
You’re saying the Democrats, who are welcoming immigrants into sanctuary cities and fighting to protect the rights of legal immigration, are somehow also responsible for fear-mongering about immigrants?
I’m saying the Democrats who have accepted and now push the 2016 right wing framing on immigration and the border as a national security threat are fear mongering about immigrants yes. Her official platform literally has
Vice President Harris and Governor Walz believe in tough, smart solutions to secure the border, keep communities safe, and reform our broken immigration system. As Attorney General of California, Vice President Harris went after international drug gangs, human traffickers and cartels that smuggled guns, drugs, and human beings across the U.S.-Mexico border. As Vice President, she supported the bipartisan border [far-right] security bill, the strongest reform in decades. The legislation would have deployed more detection technology to intercept fentanyl and other drugs and added 1,500 border security agents to protect our border. After Donald Trump killed the border deal for his political gain, she and President Biden took action on their own — and now border crossings are at the lowest level in 4 years [why is this good if people crossing the border aren’t bad], their administration is seizing record amounts of fentanyl, and secured funding for the most significant increase in border agents in ten years. As President, she will bring back the bipartisan [far-right]border security bill and sign it into law. At the same time, she knows that our immigration system is broken and needs comprehensive reform that includes strong border security and an earned pathway to citizenship.
That’s an interesting take. What do you call it when Republicans…
Whataboutism. “The Republican party are evil so it’s alright that the Democratic party is evil too!”.
Edit: Also, I call them the thought leaders for the future of the Democratic party as they shift further and further right on these issues in the name of "compromise " and “reaching across the aisle”
They’re the ones doing that, they’re in charge right now and conducting a genocide in Gaza while fear mongering about immigrants.
Yep, the Democratic party never learns that it can’t just shame voters into compliance while offering them nothing.
So just accept your place in a broken system, got it. Just go support more increasingly right wing fascist policies and give up on any hope for Democracy.*
Pure strawman.
Pretty sure voting for a write in candidate/third party is, by definition, participating in the system.
You just accept the system is broken and undemocratic and believe others should accept this as well and give up.
You are more devoted to “order” than to justice; you prefer a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; you constantly say “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; you paternalistically believe you can set the timetable on progress and constantly advise the progressive to to wait for a “more convenient season”.
You are the “white moderate” MLK warned of, as is the vast majority of the party, though not for long, as the party increasingly seeks the support of the right to avoid allowing any policy victory for the left.
You are increasingly the Republican party of Cheney, as demonstrated by, not only his support for the party, but by the party and Kamala herself touting the endorsement, rather than ignoring it/distancing themselves.
Alaska has a Republican Governor along with a Republican Majority in the house and Senate, they have no restrictions on abortion.
Does this mean the Republican party is pro-choice or that by voting Republican we can secure abortion rights? The answer is no.
Alaska, a red state, is reportedly trying to remove their rank choice voting. This isn’t a “Dems” problem, it’s a two party problem.
This is a counter to the Democratic party supporters you see everywhere who always get irrationally upset at third party voters, not about Republicans.
The point is, if the Democratic party never plan to address it, then how will it ever get done through voting Dem? The same goes for all the other issues people claim we should ignore in the name of “vote blue no matter who”, including their genocide.
Tell that to the immigrants the Dems keep fearmongering about.
How is this not complete “they’re bringing drugs over our border, some I assume are very fine people” rhetoric? But it’s worse, because now this is the position of the “leftist” party.
When the “leftist” party is right wing on immigration, the right has to seperate themselves somehow, so now the ratchet clicked and Trump’s calling for pogroms.
The Republican party of yesterday was the Republicans of yesterday who are now endorsing the Democrats, because the Democrats best represent their ideology, otherwise they would be endorsing someone else.
Argue it all you want, they aren’t secret leftist heroes.