So when you invalidate what I’m saying, it’s deescelation. When I say the exact same thing, it’s a personal attack? Why couldn’t that have been me deescelating the needless shitposting in my movies thread?

And according to you, there is appropriate times for personal attacks, but only in response to good faith dialogue, not to shitposters.

Sure.

Why did this post need further deescelation? It’s 3 days old and dead. The only people keeping it alive is the follow-up mod clique coming in to launch personal attacks.

And what are these 50+ comments if not a conversation? This is again, you letting your conflict of interest take over, which is why I wanted an alternative mod to stand in and direct all of this non relevant discussion elsewhere.

You want to justify your personal attack while still feeling vindicated in taking action against me. The comparison of your

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to Op

To my

sorry you have bad taste

Is off-putting so you want to dismiss my statements again.

It’s your community. Feel free to ban me whenever.

For one, most of the direct attack complaints are about mods in this not deleted post we are discussing in. I’m assuming you are wanting to single out the one comment that had a 30 minute lifespan in my 2 hour thread before I deleted the thread.

There was enough time for the comment to be made, for me to respond, for you to respond to my response, for me to respond to your response to my response, and again for you to leave nother response.

The direct personal attack was in that thread for half of that time, and our discussion was happening in direct relation to people shitting on a 25 year old film in a thread of me trying to talk to fans about a theatrical rerun.

So outcome:

You get to keep the commenters who will shit on new input, and you will lose somebody who was willing to post and engage in your sub in a positive way, because his joke was too mean to shitposters.

But really, the question on your moderatorship is why are you letting people launch personal attacks on me here? Why are you attacking me personally.

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to OP

How is saying somebody’s input has no value different from saying somebody has bad taste?

You are only one of the mods I’m complaining about launching personal stalking attacks across communities, though. Other people are free to call me a jerk, combatative, shitty, and plenty of other phrases here openly, but I can’t say somebody has bad taste as they shit on my post made to help people.

And do you not see how you are just breaking down the description of being outside the clique to being inside the clique?

To the people on the inside, it’s a homely group of friends, but to newcomers, it is a wall of judgment that has natural allegiances.

I’d prefer we don’t hash this out here, but since as you said I don’t have any other option, I’ll spill my purse.

You didn’t moderate the comments that were shitposting in your movies community, trashing on new input. You decided to single me out over a joke response against shitposters.

You didn’t moderate the direct personal attack paragraph written as:

People who make their whole personality about Star Wars, or Star Trek, or Marvel Comics, or whatever…

Are just as bad as potheads who make their whole personality revolve around the fact that they smoke pot.

The problematic line for you was

Sorry you have bad taste. I hope it gets better for you

And now you follow me back here to dismiss my input and defend personal attacks.

Like for real?

Hey, I’ve edited the tone of the targeted communication. Does this fit your guidelines?

I understand you have power over both communities and have personal beef, but would it be fair for me to ask a different moderator to input here?

Can you remove yourself due to a conflict of interest?

Can you make a post of the overall discourse that mods can be directed to instead of hashing it out in my thread? My post here is being derailed by personal attacks and you are choosing to kick me out.

This is kind of my entire point about singled out harrasment by stalker mods.

Thanks, you also have a good one.

Don’t worry, I left the key quotes on what was civil vs uncivil according to what you singled out of that thread in another comment.

My deleted post won’t prevent them from having access.

This is a great place to highlight, the problematic quote from me was

“Sorry you have bad taste” to a shitposter in a post of mine.

Right here, an admin is saying “I wouldn’t pay too much attention to OP”.

These both sound like a method of invalidating the input of another person to me.

For those who want to know what this admin is referencing:

I made a post in the movies sub this morning. I was notifying star wars fans there was a theatrical re-run of Episode 1 on May 4th so they should grab their tickets now.

A group of shitposters came in being assholes ranging from saying Star wars is bad to personal attacks that people who like star wars are insufferable.

People who make their whole personality about Star Wars, or Star Trek, or Marvel Comics, or whatever…

Are just as bad as potheads who make their whole personality revolve around the fact that they smoke pot.

Direct quote of one of the commenters

I simply said

“Sorry yall were born with bad taste. Hope it gets better”.

And the mod specifically singled me out as they followed me from this thread.

The other comment is still up.

Every step forward is a good step. Glad yall had a good time despite the prices.

It’s crazy, I swear I could go bowling on like 20 bucks in college or something. Maybe I was just gaming deals lol.

I only started mass downvoting super mod activity as of today in response to yet another moderator interaction. Don’t try to frame the way I interacted on this site before this post with my reaction to moderator harrasment since then.

Yall can keep your modlog to yourself, and your personal attacks.

Yall are literally stalking me across different posts to start shit and now trying to dig up additional personal information to frame this profile. You call defending myself from yalls harrasment “combatative”.

The only power a user has to combat yalls harrasment is the downvote button or posting and opening themselves up to further harrasment. A downvote is a legitimate form of interaction and is exactly how I plan on interacting with every super mod post going forward.

This all happened after this post, not before it, and I’ve had dozens of perfectly fine interactions with dozens of users on this site outside of the mods.

Enjoy preventing interaction by constant tone policing.

And I’ve barely used this site, but the metrics are showing it going down. The mods are literally in another thread, crying to each other about “shouting to the void”. So maybe you are coping by pinning the death of your subs on one user who does not appreciate the harrasment.

Well now you know why you are losing users.

Yall pick fights with legitimate interaction in the name of civility to protect shitposting.

Edit: another mod just wrote a long personal attack justifying their behavior again. Deleted it, but I saw it.

I thought it was just a couple problematic mods, I didn’t realize yall were forming a mod clique in private dialogues baking this behavior into the community.

And that kind of discussion would go in the relevant thread, in the sub I’m banned in.

I’m not here to debate the validity of cherry-picked statements from the dude who says human races are like different species.

None of my statements were attacking anything except for racist ideology.

It seems to me that amzd compared speciesism to racism, specifically to condemn speciesism, and by extention factory farms. Not to condone racism.

The step you need, to go from “racism is wrong” to “speciesism is wrong” is to extend your circle of compassion to all sentient animals and not just humans.

This is a direct quote from them that this is based on.

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Here is your comment I responded to. The claim you were challenging was me saying I was not uncivil because I attacked racist ideology, not individuals.

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Looking at the modlog, you weren’t banned for your views but your combative and rude attitude expressed in numerous comments, breaking the rules about civility.

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Here is the start of this specific comment chain that you are debating my response to.

But now that I’ve hammered down to the point of the matter, you want to posture that I’ve lost the comment chain.

Ironic. I’m all about respecting peoples identity, but im also super shitty at names, so I had to Google this. Lmao

Elliot Page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Page

Yoo, May 3rd/4th they are doing a theatrical re-run of episode 1. Buy your tickets if your interested before they sell out!

Any idea how much your local alley is charging? I’m curious about inflation / area pricing.

I used to go to some pretty cheap lanes but recently moved to the east coast. Found myself spending over 100$ on a single lane for maybe 2 hours. Kinda hurt lol.

Taxes got me bad this year. I think I messed up on my income reporting on my new position.

Hope ypu have a better time lol

Something laborers fought, bled, and died for the right to have. I find time away from work sacred.

We couldn’t use photos of OP for this joke. They all just looked like thumbs with sunglasses, lol.

It’s incredible how afraid the shallow people of the world are. One celebrity openly transitions, and yall can never have a functional thought again without your hate.

I’m not here to debate the validity of cherry-picked portions of their statement. Feel free to respond to me in that thread on that topic. Then you might understand my rant about pointless bans here. I was fully willing to engage in a good faith debate on this topic in the place where it was happening.

I’m here venting and now justifying my vent to you. You were claiming I was uncivil, and I’m asking you to point at my uncivil statements.

As a sign of good faith, I’ll point out that the debate on veganism wasn’t being fairly input to the thread. The reason I gave half assed responses was that they were attacking people unjustly to begin with.

Veganism is a complex topic ranging from food scarcity to eating habits. I’m an advocate for veganism and participate in 3 vegan days a week. Both me and my wife come from heavy meat cultures and do not find it so simple a habit to beat.

But even when I pointed out they didn’t know my stance on veganism, they were still assholes at a personal level.

So please go continue the conversation on veganism with the rest of the circlejerk where I am banned.

I would prefer the focus of this post be about how unrelated moderation is stifling this site to death.

Yup, this was it. I would appreciate if you included the snarky initial vegan response to the initial comment that triggered that chain, too. It would be more relevant than those other 2 comments of the random chain above.

Just saying if we are doing context, full context is best. Blaze already included a link, so it’s not necessary, but this is the visual in this thread, thus is the most immediate attention grabbing version of it.

Rude attitude is worthy of a ban? Why are none of the rude shit talking vegans in that thread banned? And the other dude has a screenshot of my statements. What are you saying was rulebreaking civility rules?

None of my statements were attacking anything except for racist ideology.

I have no problem admitting I was being rude, the initial topic was about people enraged by the slaughter of a dolphin, and some vegans decided that was the time to shit talk people’s diets in response. I was rude to people being rude.

But I never broke civility rules and was never more egregious than the vegans I was responding to.

Seems kinda like exactly my point that being rude to rude vegans being enough reason to perma ban somebody from a news sub on this site, and how that will choke this site to death.

Hey, who knew you didn’t make friends by shit talking to somebody in distress?

If your opening statement is calling somebody else combative and shitty unprovoked, you probably should not expect a friendly response.

Had to get on your alt to fit in some extra crying.