You also don’t do logical conclusions apparently.

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said except.

Continuing to try and shame voters for not supporting your candidate isn’t going to accomplish anything

Who was MY candidate? I had to vote for the same milquetoast dem every other functional adult did. I weighed the options and made a decision. If some hypothetical non-voters think they have a better solution let’s see it, they should be ashamed. Sitting in basements screeching online doesn’t accomplish anything so let’s fucking go.

I’m just waiting for the revolution to start, that’s what we all want right?

Other voters in swing states had real issues with

I’m not sure those voters exist. Lemmy thinks that they do but i don’t see any evidence that they’re real people.

At any rate there’s little difference between not-voting and not-existing in the grand scheme so now we get to see what happens when an unashamed fascist wins and surrounds himself with yes men.

Unless those principled non-voters are ready to arm themselves and actually agitate, they might as well not exist and we can proceed accordingly.

“other reasons I’ve heard that don’t involve the economy and low information voters.”

Seems pretty obvious, lemmy is just a weird toxic place where everyone jumps at the chance to argue with any comment even though we all agree about 90% of this stuff.

Progressives turned out to vote for the obviously less dangerous to America candidate.

Terminally online internet leftists sat at home in their basements and want feel like they’re revolutionaries.

Start a revolution champ, we’re all waiting.

I assume this is what people were thinking.

I’m not sure those people exist. Lemmy seems to think they do but the electorate doesn’t reflect that at all and unless they’re ready to arm themselves and fight (and they’re not, as much as they like to talk about it online) they may as well not exist.

I actually agree with you. However, the right wing won, full stop unfortunately.

Arguing “no true leftist” or “Your side” is pointless. The Right won and no amount of semantics or told you so is going to change the results.

So when they start mass deporting or rounding up trans people we can just say “the dems didn’t run progressive enough policie for me” and wash our hands of it I guess.

“Your” party didn’t even show up, why would anyone listen to them?

Edit: hey at least a couple of you learned how to vote! Maybe try doing that irl and not just on the internet!

And leftists vastly overestimate their popularity and numbers.

Hating men is okay and if you point it out you’re an abusive rapist.

We shouldn’t judge groups of people based on the actions of a minority, unless it’s men.

“Thought terminating cliche”

This seems like a good place to link Robert Evans BTB episode: “How Conservatism Won” in which “Robert sits down with David Bell to discuss how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).”

Our current situation really is the culmination of almost 70 years of rightwing efforts. They’ve mobilized their base and that base turn outs to city councils to set up Nativity scenes and school board meetings to ban books. There are dozens of “grassroots movements” with varying interests, (some funded by shady thinktanks but some funded by low level true believers). At the end of the day they all show up to vote for their guy(s) to push their party the direction they want, it’s worked and that party has mainstreamed extremism. Their judges and policy wonks are all Foundation Vetted and Approved ideologues.

The left lost, now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

tl;dl the rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set to work to undo everything he did and have been pretty successful, it’ll likely take decades of work to undo the damage that’s been done IF “the left” can wake up.

I legitimately know a woman who’s divorcing her husband, finding out he was a Trump supporter was the final straw. They’ve been in a rough spot for the last year or so, he doesn’t cook/clean at all.

She was going to leave him a year ago but tried to make it work, finding out he was a secret Trumper sealed the deal for her.

Traitors should’ve been hanged. Their lands should’ve been confiscated and given to newly freed peoples, 40 acres and a mule and all that. Reconstruction failed in large part because the traitorous, racist losers were allowed to go home and start implementing Jim Crow laws instead of being held accountable.

That they and their descendants were allowed to live out their days peacefully pretending their cause was somehow noble and honorable and not just chattel slavery is a crime that persists to this day in the systemic racism throughout our government.

The body is Rottweiler-sized, segmented into overlapping hard plates like those of a rhinoceros. The legs are long, curled way up to deliver power, like a cheetah’s. It must be the tail that makes people refer to it as a Rat Thing, because that’s the only ratlike part - incredibly long and flexible.

The grass under the Rat Thing is beginning to smoke.

“Careful. Supposedly they have really nasty isotopes inside,” Hiro says behind her… “A radioactive substance that makes heat. That’s its energy source.”

“How do you turn it off?”

“You don’t. It keeps making heat until it melts.”

The body converges to a sharp nose. In the front it bends down sharply, and there is a black canopy, raked sharply like the windshield of a fighter plane. If the Rat Thing has eyes, this is where it looks out.

As part of Mr. Lee’s good neighbor policy, all Rat Things are programmed never to break the sound barrier in a populated area. But Fido’s in too much of a hurry to worry about the good neighbor policy. Jack the sound barrier. Bring the noise.

Also while some peoples definition of criminal is “murderer” or similar some peoples definition is closer to "you did or a relative did something not 100% legal in the last generation or two.

edit: some peoples definition of criminal will definitely include unhoused or non-land owning eventually

That already happened to like 90% of us thanks to the same cultists.

Don’t you think that into existance Matt! Take it back!

Assuming this is real (it’s not) the art teacher might possibly be right in saying dial it back. Subtlety and nuance are great in art. People like to interpret artists meaning (even if it’s pretty obvious). If they’re anything like the art teachers I’ve had they were familiar with feminism and trying to help the student grow as an artist.

I’m happy to see you’re not talking in the 3rd person anymore though.

100% spot on, pump and dumps are especially rampant in crypto because a couple of people can generate a ton of coins and own the entire market for that coin. If they can get that price to rise even just a fractional amount through whatever completely unregulated means they can dump it to the suckers buying and cash out. It’s like printing money but the printing presses are stupid people.