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The tax breaks in the Inflation Recovery Act are crucial to making the deal economically feasible, according to Constellation. They provide a credit for every megawatt hour of nuclear energy produced.

lmao so instead of this funding the energy transition it’s just subsidizing the AI grift

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    And of course the second tragedy is that the AI is absolute dogshit. They’re not powering an artificial general intelligence that could do useful things like help in running a modern global-scale Project Cybersyn. All this staggering amount of electricity wasted so that Github users don’t need to search Stackoverflow, so that people can say “hey google set a 4 minute timer” in their kitchens instead of hitting a half-dozen buttons on their microwave, so that people can tell Alexa to play Despacito.

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      They’re not powering an artificial general intelligence that could do useful things like help in running a modern global-scale Project Cybersyn.

      You don’t need that for planning and in fact the People’s Commissariat for Energetics’ secret police would send you to super gulag for suggesting such a preposterous thing.

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    Reactivating a notorious nuclear power plant solely to run AI sounds like a story beat that was cut from a Kojima game.

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    Oh sure NOW we want nuclear power. Not because of global warming or the immense pollution that burning fossil fuels produces, no no, those aren’t good reasons to move to nuclear. But powering AI servers? That’s what we need nuclear for! That’s more important than the health of a population or the entire biosphere!

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    I didn’t have the motivation to read the whole thing so I scanned it for funny stuff. But it looked dreary so the only thing I read was the final paragraph. The article ends on a funny note. Tech companies don’t even bother to make an effort to lie anymore. Look at this shit.

    Microsoft has signed a contract to purchase fusion energy from a start-up that claims it can deliver it by 2028.

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    Related - [“tech bro bullshit” news] Nuclear fusion startup Helion claims it will have a working power plant by 2028. Microsoft is already a customer. More in body. - Hexbear

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      That startup (helion or whatever its called) claimed in 2013 they would be producing power by 2018, then in 2018 claimed they would be producing power by 2023, and then in 2023 claimed they would be producing power by 2028. I’m starting to see a pattern

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        It might happen by 2128

        Seriously though - I wonder how that firm choose four years. “About a decade” is equally bullshit but to some people it would sound like a moonshot they might get to. But four years sounds like purely made up bullshit to appeal to VC firms.

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    ermmmmmmm. well. this is. really dumb. but its not as bad as if they were running the normal option of like 50 coal plants. can somebody sneak in and turn the AI off after its finished

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      On one hand the idea of some AI embodying a huge computer complex powered by its own reactor is straight out of sci-fi (yes I did just finish playing Rain World, how did you know?). On the other hand this vision is significantly undermined by the mundane reality of a radiation hazard powering a million confidently incorrect redditor chatbots

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        last time i heard (old info) the three mile island release wasn’t ever confirmed to be significant. in reading the wikipedia section about its current status it seems like calling it a radiation hazard might not be any more accurate than any other nuke plant.

        e: see responses

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          It’s a tossup between Three Mile Isle and Centralia for who gets to be called Pennsylvania’s Chernobyl. (Personally I vote Centralia since it’s still a hazard… I should visit)

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            Centralia is fun.

            Three Mile is undisputed PA Chernobyl for me. My family were friends with another, the mother & daughter of which were from Philly but just happened to be a few miles from Three Mile the day things went down. Both of them developed breast cancer decades apart, with no prior family history thinky-felix

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          Current status, definitely not an ongoing hazard. At the time, though, a husband-wife team that joined up as a radiation monitoring technician and a senior surveillance technician, the Thompsons, spoke out about a health/dosimeter badge coverup and had to flee town after a stranger warned them their life was in danger. When they settled in NM and began working on a book about it with the wife’s brother, him and the husband were run off the road, killing the brother while a manuscript of the book that was in the trunk went ‘missing’. Epidemiology links increased rates of health issues that stem from ionizing radiation to both the locations surrounding the incident and the areas downwind. Jean Trimmer, in the area, reported a flash of heat and rain, followed by bad sunburns, hair turning white and falling out, and an idiopathic atrophy of the kidney that warranted presentation to a symposium of doctors nearby from how strange it is. None of these are consistent with the official estimates of exposure, but do match the symptoms of acute exposure of a much higher dose.

          Of course, this was also a time when the Soviets presented an information warfare challenge. On the same token, disasters of any size and sort are often covered up when there’s a cold war justification. See: the pandemic (ongoing, unabated)

          Potentially, the only difference between this and foreign radioactive disasters is the competency of US intelligence. I would not be surprised to learn much later that a coverup was instituted, which would have been perfectly possible especially in the information environment of the time. I recommend nuclear energy advocates cease condescendingly using it as an example of nuclear panic, and instead make an effort to compassionately address people’s concerns over potential health hazards and lack of government support in the future. At the very least, to avoid potential embarrassment and backlash if a “full story” ever comes out about the incident.

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            Hey thanks for this response. I’ll try to refrain from going too much farther down the rhetorical line I was kind of representing if this particular incident comes up again. Nuclear energy has always seemed boss to me but I like the way you frame this with these different contexts

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                I didn’t necessarily feel you were. I was riding on fumes of watching Penn & Teller: Bullshit! as a teen ( cringe ) and I knew it, so I wanted to cover my bases