But just because some people become addicted to a thing, and a few people ruin their lives over the thing,
It’s not a few we’re talking about the systemic robbery of the working class by Draft Kings and their ilk
doesn’t mean the government should force all of us to avoid the thing.
For every addict or idiot who blows up their account and has to sell their home, there’s millions of people who are enjoying gambling for what it is supposed to be: entertainment.
Millions!? Are you fucking kidding me, where did this ratio come from?
There’s NO ethical consumption under Capitalism! Why would I single out one type of consumption when the whole damn system is rotten?
Capitalism is bad everywhere so nothing is worse than anything else. I can actually do whatever the fuck I want. Since jaywalking is also a crime it makes no sense to jail someone longer for murder. Everything is flat! Tomatoes and the fucking Mafia are equal! I’m on a smart phone so I’m as bad as the goddamn Sackler family who should be allowed to keep up their drug operation because everything is equally bad!
“nanny” state
you sound like my racist uncle
baffles me that as leftists
“leftist” is a wobbly meaningless word that lets radlibs pretend to be revolutionary. Hexbear is a communist community. Communist communist communist. I’m a commie.
we claim to want to liberate the masses, and then turn around and get very paternal about a few specific things like gambling, drugs, etc.
I’m extremely pro laws and rules and restrictions if they’re in the interest of the working class. Banning sports betting apps is clearly in the interest of the working class.
I would think us of all people would understand wanting to be left alone! I want to be left alone! I want a state that leaves people alone!
I don’t share your sentiment and think you should change your display name to Ron Paul.
Maybe a state where the people have complete control will be different, but I do NOT ever want to allow unelected bureaucrats to have power over my body, my family, and my friends’ lives the way the U.S. has control over those right now.
Did one of your friends or family members found DraftKings or something?
Banning sports betting apps is clearly in the interest of the working class.
No, it’s your personal opinion of what the working class wants. We need to operate in reality, and the reality is demand is there for all of these betting apps and millions of people to be using them every day.
I don’t do it personally, it’s not for me, but that’s not the point. A good communist should go to the masses and build a program based on what they want, not what you think they want
That some people would buy something does not mean the proletariat as a bloc supports it. Very many people think sports gambling on this digital industrial scale is absolutely fucked, and from a democratic standpoint, if the majority believe that, the thing to do is ban it. Moreover, even among the 19% of Americans who use these apps (and not all of them are devotees, mind), a meaningful portion of them are there because of advertising glamorizing the apps, and a fair portion are still there because they are addicts, i.e. it’s not a choice being made freely. It seems like an obvious measure to present the options of banning or re-legalizing it with a discussion on things like gambling addiction.
Based on limited information, I don’t like all of the measures described there, but I think it’s unquestionably superior to the previous state of things because what is lost were some cultural affectations and hobbies, and what was gained was freedom from both psychological and chemical addictions, along with food security, safety from banditry, lower rent, political representation, etc.
It’s not a few we’re talking about the systemic robbery of the working class by Draft Kings and their ilk
Millions!? Are you fucking kidding me, where did this ratio come from?
Capitalism is bad everywhere so nothing is worse than anything else. I can actually do whatever the fuck I want. Since jaywalking is also a crime it makes no sense to jail someone longer for murder. Everything is flat! Tomatoes and the fucking Mafia are equal! I’m on a smart phone so I’m as bad as the goddamn Sackler family who should be allowed to keep up their drug operation because everything is equally bad!
you sound like my racist uncle
“leftist” is a wobbly meaningless word that lets radlibs pretend to be revolutionary. Hexbear is a communist community. Communist communist communist. I’m a commie.
I’m extremely pro laws and rules and restrictions if they’re in the interest of the working class. Banning sports betting apps is clearly in the interest of the working class.
I don’t share your sentiment and think you should change your display name to Ron Paul.
Did one of your friends or family members found DraftKings or something?
No, it’s your personal opinion of what the working class wants. We need to operate in reality, and the reality is demand is there for all of these betting apps and millions of people to be using them every day.
I don’t do it personally, it’s not for me, but that’s not the point. A good communist should go to the masses and build a program based on what they want, not what you think they want
That some people would buy something does not mean the proletariat as a bloc supports it. Very many people think sports gambling on this digital industrial scale is absolutely fucked, and from a democratic standpoint, if the majority believe that, the thing to do is ban it. Moreover, even among the 19% of Americans who use these apps (and not all of them are devotees, mind), a meaningful portion of them are there because of advertising glamorizing the apps, and a fair portion are still there because they are addicts, i.e. it’s not a choice being made freely. It seems like an obvious measure to present the options of banning or re-legalizing it with a discussion on things like gambling addiction.
As an aside, I am once again asking you to read Mao: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_2.htm#g9 . Once workers are given power, it is entirely possible for them to take action against the gambling that has troubled their community under the dictatorship of the owning class.
Based on limited information, I don’t like all of the measures described there, but I think it’s unquestionably superior to the previous state of things because what is lost were some cultural affectations and hobbies, and what was gained was freedom from both psychological and chemical addictions, along with food security, safety from banditry, lower rent, political representation, etc.
I don’t need a libertarian to tell me what a good communist would do.
And I don’t need a Republican to tell me what a good Marxist would do
Who do you think the working class consists of?