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    • Imagine if the rest of Europe was as revanchist about each other as Finland is to Russia

      They fought one short border war in the lead up to WW2, but to hear the Finns talk about it they make it seem like Russia was personally massacring every single civilian they could for fun on their way to burn down Helsinki

      Imagine if France still held out a deep mistrust and hatred of the Germans for two world wars, or the Belgians for the Franco-Flemish war. One war a century ago and Finland can’t get the fuck over it

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        That’s because Europeans actually love fascism, and will never forgive the USSR for saving them from it. In their eyes, the only thing Nazi Germany did wrong was do to Europe what Europe was doing to the rest of the world.

        Ok maybe not all Europeans, but that ship sailed when the SPD sent the freikorps to kill Rosa and Karl.

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        There are lots of boomers that are also very mad about Finlandisation. In their view, the big bad Soviet Union unfairly leaned on smol bean Finland to take a diplomatically neutral position during the Cold War when they just wanted America-senpai to notice them

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    • “If the Russian maintainers meet the compliance requirements then they’ll be back in”
    • “What are the compliance requirements?”
    • “My lawyers have told me not to say.”

    amerikkka-clap Good job Mr. Torvalds, you are the master of being subtle. Not even RMS would do this and that’s the biggest F-you I can give Torvalds.

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      actually what he said was “lawyers” told him not to say. Which I read as quite vague… just some lawyers. Could have been lawyers acting on anybody’s behalf, not necessarily “his”. Maybe he got some sort of demand letter from a right wing dark money law firm. There was such an organization making interventions into linux a while ago.

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      There are two of them (the other). The one posted by a lemmygrad user has less librained comments (probably because the lib instances blocked lemmygrad a long time ago).

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    I’m also not going to start discussing legal issues with random internet people who I seriously suspect are paid actors and/or have been riled up by them.

    Everyone Who Disagrees With Me is a Russian Bot is the perfect unfalsifiable truth for these libs.

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    they always say ‘because of connections to Russia’ and never ‘because they were Russian’

    I don’t even get it, why have a smoke show when we all know exactly what you want to say

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    It sounds to me like he may have been approached by somebody or gotten a legal notice and then enthusiastically complied with it. Either way not surprised to see Linus say dumb shit, he’s been doing it for decades.

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    Yikes. I recommend reading this linked article too: Several Linux Kernel Driver Maintainers Removed Due To Their Association To Russia

    This includes the maintainer of the Acer Aspire 1 EC driver, Cirrus Logic CLPS711X ARM architecture, Baikal-T1 PVT hardware monitor driver, Libata PATA drivers, libata SATA AHCI Synopsys DWC controller drivers, ASCOT2E media drivers, MIPS Baikal-T1 platform driver, NTB IDT driver, PPTP driver, Renesas R-Car SATA driver, Renesas Super-H Ethernet Driver, and the UFS file-system. Just the maintainer entries are being removed and not the actual drivers themselves.

    Here’s the actual patch and some ensuing discussion on the mailing list: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove some entries due to various compliance requirements. - Greg Kroah-Hartman

    I am surprised they are able to do this… is there not some sort of licensing requirement of attribution? I don’t know the details of what “maintainer” status indicates. It sounds like they are being removed from the credits though. Or are they being removed from decision making power or ability to contribute going forward?

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      they are removed from their position of being publicly responsible for said drivers, which is separate from code attributions in the actual code files and the actual git commit log.

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        Ah thanks.

        I wonder if they were polite enough to give the fired maintainers a private heads up before firing off the patch.