Because you now did it to yourself.

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    Is it because woman? Like holy shit, Biden was an old fuck and still won last time. Hillary didn’t win. Wtf, is it really because woman!?

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      I know they’re not done counting everything yet, but as it currently stands…

      2020 Biden - 81.3m
      2024 Harris - 66.2m

      I’m disgusted with our country.

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          It’s not the voter’s fault. Candidates should earn votes not expect them. The Dems chose a shit candidate and lost as a result. They’ll learn nothing from this and probably move further right.

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            It abso-fucking-lutely is the voters fault as well as the party’s. They knew the options and chose the worst possible one. Get the fuck out of here with that whitewashing bullshit. Even when you have a shit choice, you’re still making the choice, and it’s on you too.

            They’ll learn nothing from this

            That goes for the voters just as much. Next time we’re staring down a fascist and a shitty dem, we’ll pick the fascist because the Dems has to have a spotless record or we’ll piss away any progress we have in a temper tantrum.

            I fucking hate my fellow Americans.

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              It is the candidate’s job to entice voters. Kamala and the dnc failed. There should be a purge of leadership but they’ll probably just do it all again in 2028. The lesser-Evil argument has never been a good one. Vote shaming has never been a successful tactic either but please feel free to continue lol

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                Whatever helps you sleep at night with the choices you made friend.

                I’m not here to shame anyone. You knew what was at stake when you pulled the lever, I hope you’re happy with the outcome. I’m just not going to let people abdicate the responsibility they’re trying to shirk for the choices they made.

                But you’ll be happy to note that I won’t be interacting with you again, because I’ve got no time for cowards who shift blame for consequences of decisions they’ve made.

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        I was looking at those numbers too. And if you compare Trump’s 24 numbers to 2020, he lost about 4M votes this time. So it’s not like the 20M from Biden voted for Trump this time, they just didn’t vote.

        20 million people are going to be the reason for the death of Democracy.

        Assholes.

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          20 million PLUS all the Trump voters.

          You must not focus solely on non-voters.

          • The people voting for Trump are much more directly responsible.
          • You will need those non-voters in the future, completely alienating them now will not help the cause.
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          The non-voters had nothing to do with this. They literally did not participate.

          Any real democracy would count the non-voters as part of the results. 20M not voting? OK then, any policies that affect everyone can no longer be enacted. No new laws. No new wars. Government can then maintain plumbing and provide public services, that’s it.

          Why isn’t that the case? Why is it not a requirement for people to vote for government to have power?

          Democracy…? Sure. Whatever hope you need to feel, friend, see you in the streets I hope.

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            Why isn’t that the case?

            There is no law in the US mandating that people vote. I can only speculate as to how that started, and why that’s still the case.

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              The argument I’m making is not that the cops should pick you up if you don’t vote…

              The argument I’m making is that politicians should not have full power if people don’t vote.

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      Partly. The DNC forcing Harris to adopt conservative talking points / abandon the Tim Walz progressive policies was also a massive blow to her base. You can’t spend 8 years comparing Republicans to Nazis and then promise to put them on your cabinet and to continue their racist border policy. The DNC forced Harris to listen to donors over voters and this is the end result

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        Vote blue no matter who against Bush and Cheney and 20 years later use their endorsement.

        Democrats will soon carry the banner of a Barron Trump endorsement.

        Fuck them.

        Americans reading this: don’t wait 4 years for another chance to elect the slightly better option. This is the time for organising and direct action. Join community and labour organizations, prepare for a general strike, sabotage the conservative agenda. You cannot be idle any longer.

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          If Trump lives long enough, I don’t think we’re getting another chance. He’s said pretty explicitly that he intends this to be a dictatorship. We’re fucked.