yes, if you change the problem, you change the way we respond. that’s why there’s so many trolley problems spin offs in the first place
but the end result is the same.
you’re always left with five.
The artist just immortalized in a strip that does not understand the trolley problem.
It understands it just fine. Agency is not a factor in the decision. The choice between action and inaction doesn’t matter. People think it matters because people are driven by shortsighted emotions.
Agency might matter depending on societal context. 5 hot guys might be worse than 1 hot guy in a world with limited resources, for example.
Everyone knows that 5 of something is usually better than 1. The dilemma comes from finding a situation where that might not be true, and therein exploring some quirks of our own humanity.
It goes too far when people interpret these quirks as fundamental human traits, but there is genuine merit in testing oneself with fun hypotheticals
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Classic Kahneman/Tversky here
The best part is that, by refusing to be killed themselves, they are making a choice to let the other people die, rendering their hypocrisy evident and their worry fully rendered moot
I would read the shit out of this but 5 people I have never and will never meet who nobody knows will die painlessly and I’m just not sure of the moral implications.
Can Trolley Man at least multi-track drift?
I keep seeing this image, were ist from?
Initial D parody.
While you are at that… https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QSrhGw4cU
Ugh, this guy’s gonna be a problem.
Like a whole thing 😫
Issue #1 or 5? You decide!
This got a bonus chuckle from me.
Still saves more lives than Homelander
Isn’t Homelander a villain though? I thought he was supposed to be a villain.
Edit: NM I didn’t realize Homelander was from The Boys. I honestly thought he was the guy in Guardians of The Galaxy 3
Edit 2: Apparently that character’s name is Adam Warlock.
The multiple layers of confusion gave me a laugh, thank you.
I remember reading The Infinity gauntlet comics and in it Adam warlock was supposed to be the greatest human being ever created.
And then they picked the actor that they chose for him and I’m just not seeing it.
Spoiler
Homelander is the villain in the boys.
Anyone who drinks milk on-screen is always a villain.
Let’s see, Milk is a symbol of innocence and purity in movies, and is often used to make the audience feel uncomfortable when a villain or anti-hero drinks it.
This is because milk is typically associated with childhood, which is considered the most innocent and pure time of life.
When a villain drinks milk, it can represent the consumption or destruction of innocence, and can be used to indicate the villain’s loss of innocence
Counterargument: Luke Skywalker.
At that point isn’t he? He created Kylo and then left everyone else to figure it out.
Not really a hero’s move
Yeah but blue milk tho. Might as well be cheese at that point
Myself? I’d prefer bacta. You NEVER say no to bacta
Ahh, kk. Never seen it, but I guess the two characters seem similar in that respect at least.
Hiding that piece of info behind a spoiler tag chef’s kiss.
It’s close to the second ghost rider (and maybe the first, been awhile since I dug up my old comics) who didn’t have powers until innocent blood was spilled (though typically it was the villain who spilled it).
The Dave Chappelle bit about Bill Cosby being a superhero… but he rapes.
There is no sinking ship. Fake news!
I want more of this. Reminds me on the anime Darker than Black, where those with power always had to fulfill some contract to use their power, else they’d die.
Man, this anime is so underrated. I like it a lot. I question the artistic direction on the second season, but at least the ending wrapped up the whole show nicely.
A little correction, nobody really know what happens when a contractor doesn’t do that side-effect thingy. It is never mentioned if they would die, nor that it’s even implied. The way I see it, they’d simply develop strong impulse to do so.
So he killed Stan Lee?
And here was I thinking that this character was so terrible that it caused Stan Lee to spontaneously spring back into existence in order to make that opinion known.
How democrats unironically viewed the election.
I don’t get it.
Libs on this platform are obsessed with the trolley problem. They referred to it a lot to prove that genocide is ok and it being a deal breaker is stupid.
USA voters in the recent election never had a choice between genocide and not genocide, though, so your rambling seems pretty delusional.
Democrats : we have a complicated diplomatic relationship with this foreign state that is exacerbated by our domestic politics. We want this war to end, way more aid to flow into gaza, and a real, two state solution with a change of leadership in both nations so Palestine can co-exist with Israel.
MAGA : PALESTINE DOES NOT EXIST AND NEVER WILL, WE WILL SEND A FLOOD OF UNLIMITED WEAPONS ON DAY 1, THE WEST BANK DOES NOT HAVE ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS, JUST NORMAL COMMUNITIES. OUR AMBASSADOR TO ISRAEL IS A FUNDAMENTALIST CRISTIAN WHO WANTS ARMAGEDDON AND OUR SECRETARY OF STATE HAS CALLED FOR TOTAL WAR.
You:
These are the same people.
Yall are absolute clown cars, and have sentenced the palestinian people to even more mass death with your empty, vacant posturing. Its fully possible there will be no west bank or gaza after these 4 years end, partly due to your actions. Great job.
You must have misclicked, I am saying Democrats were a clear choice, that the concept that a voter could morally abstain from voting for them because of Gaza is pure fallacy.
There is no trolley problem normalizing Genocide relating to Democrats in the USA election, because genocide was always normalized and never on the ballot.
In fact, the trolley problems that user is referring to likely pointed exactly that out and they still don’t understand it, an absolute concavebrain whoosh scenario.
This guy pulled the lever and is mad that it was rusted in place.
I mean, I did too. But I knew it was rusted first. Had to try anyways.
I just know that the people at fault are both the assholes who cut the repair and replacement budget and the guys who tied the people to the tracks, and not some randoms who aren’t even in the same country.
that’s rich.
the only idiots who willingly misattribute this thought experiment are conservative trolls and Leftists, in my experience.
honestly I think Democrats are the only ones who can fully grasp the concept of the trolley problem since both conservatives and leftists are much too extreme to make a non-biased choice. That can only be true because Democrats ride the fence between the two so well(according to both conservatives anf leftists).
but hey, I’m just some retard on the internet according to them as well. 🤷
Extreme leftism is when you have a bedrock principle or two that you refuse to compromise on. Centrism is when everything, even genocide, is negotiable.
really great how you made a net negative sound like a positive, when in reality Leftists are just hyper focused on a facet of a larger problem and completely ignore the bigger picture because it doesn’t make them feel warm and fuzzy.
that’s fine. Genocide is acceptable by Leftists too if it’s Muslims.
btw, where was the leftist outrage for the millions of Wygers in China? not brown enough? not convenient enough during an election?
so what makes lefties IGNORE Wyger persecution in china?
Leave aside for a moment the argument we might have about what is happening in China… What the fuck would I be able to do about that? Do I vote in China? Do my tax dollars fund their military?
And american voters also didn’t get to do anything about the palestinian genocide because there were two choices and pretending there were more is delusional at best. And the choice was between a party unwilling to take a strong stance against it vs a party actively encouraging it and saying they’d help. While also openly wanting to genocide minority groups in their own country.
Well, there is a third choice. It’s the centrist choice of either not voting or voting for an irrelevant party, equivalent to saying “let the others decide”.
Leave aside for a moment the argument we might have about what is happening in China… What the fuck would I be able to do about that? Do I vote in China? Do my tax dollars fund their military?
so it’s based entirely on convenience. that’s even worse than being a racist.
your economic dollars do. the entire American economy is dependent on cheap Wyger labor.
how about pushing political leadership to apply pressure on China to stop enslaving Wygers? How about stop buying anything from China?
Your money, not tax money, but YOUR money enables China to continue to enslave Wygers.
when you go to the store, how about you look at where all your shit is made. I bet the technology you’re using to spray your liquid shititlement everywhere online is even made by Wygers in China.
Can’t lefties get their messaging straight? You guys are the “anti-establishment” crowd. the most organized anarchists! The best corpopinkos in the world!
I’ll just keep calling them hypocrites though.
You have to keep the focus on China otherwise you have to face the indefensible American support of genocide. You ask me to seek influence over my own government who already rattles the saber at China, yet I can’t even influence their very direct funding of Israel’s genocide! Tell me how you imagine that would be done? Tell me how I might apply pressure on China in 1/1000 the amount I might apply on my own government.
Ah, yes, centrists. The only ones able to think.
Ah, yea, extremists. The only ones who “have all the answers”.
Ah yes, z axists, the only ones able to “rise above” the issue
