Bluesky has seen its user base soar since the U.S. presidential election, boosted by people seeking refuge from Elon Musk’s X, or wanting an alternative to Meta’s Threads and its algorithms.
Did anyone actually think it would be? It just had to be not Twitter. Mastodon would’ve been awesome but apparently the barrier for entry was more than the average person willing to accept.
Yes a lot of people went away from Mastodon to Bluesky, thinking indeed it was open source and decentralized. Jack Dorsey is selling BlueSky like that. Also various media outlets are saying: “Is Bluesky decentralized? Yes.”
Gonna be real, microblogging is never gonna really work with decentralization. It barely works when centralized. It’s isolating by nature, and only really amplifies the voices that are already the loudest, and the introduction of separate servers and federation delays only make those problems worse.
Yesn’t. Yes we have DNS, which is bad enough. But the internet itself was build to be resistant and distributed. DNS is distributed, but not decentralized. However, decentralized protocols (read BitTorrent protocols, etc.) do exist, and does make it more decentralized. Without the need of DNS.
I’m never doing to trust a single org or group to control a large group of users/people or projects. Never.
Nothing that involves authoritative state of data can be decentralized. Ultimately something is a source of truth. Who decides what the torrent data is? Congratulations, your system is now centralized.
Decentralized systems are anarchist mastubatory fantasy, distributed systems are what runs the world.
You can spin up your own instance to ensure you have a custom username suffix. That’s literally all anyone needs to distinguish themselves from fake accounts. Trusting any org to remain a neutral authority is a mistake and a bigger risk than getting users to agree on an accurate source based on a suffix.
This is a neckbeard dream, and it is why activity pub will never take off.
Grandma ain’t running her own instance, but she can swipe her card and get “grandmahotstuff.com” tied to her ATproto DID.
As long as the did is maintained by a neutral org like let’s encrypt, and icann remains functional, it’s a superior model, as those orgs are now tied to the functioning of the internet itself.
Grandma’s not gonna need a unique suffix and if she does she’ll likely be the kind of person who can figure out how to get it done. Not everyone needs advanced functionality, just like not everyone needs a blue check.
I’m not trying to argue against your concerns but IMO you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Told people already it’s not as decentralized as people might believe or has being told to them. I will never join Bluesky.
Did anyone actually think it would be? It just had to be not Twitter. Mastodon would’ve been awesome but apparently the barrier for entry was more than the average person willing to accept.
Yes a lot of people went away from Mastodon to Bluesky, thinking indeed it was open source and decentralized. Jack Dorsey is selling BlueSky like that. Also various media outlets are saying: “Is Bluesky decentralized? Yes.”
I assume so. They’ve certainly been trumpeting it enough.
Gonna be real, microblogging is never gonna really work with decentralization. It barely works when centralized. It’s isolating by nature, and only really amplifies the voices that are already the loudest, and the introduction of separate servers and federation delays only make those problems worse.
Decentralization is is unobtainable. You have to have a source of truth. DNS has shown us the way, everyone else is fucking around.
Gotta have a trusted org to manage identities.
Yesn’t. Yes we have DNS, which is bad enough. But the internet itself was build to be resistant and distributed. DNS is distributed, but not decentralized. However, decentralized protocols (read BitTorrent protocols, etc.) do exist, and does make it more decentralized. Without the need of DNS.
I’m never doing to trust a single org or group to control a large group of users/people or projects. Never.
Nothing that involves authoritative state of data can be decentralized. Ultimately something is a source of truth. Who decides what the torrent data is? Congratulations, your system is now centralized.
Decentralized systems are anarchist mastubatory fantasy, distributed systems are what runs the world.
I believe you still have no idea how BitTorrent protocol works if you reply with such a comment.
What torrent data? I’m not talking about any data! I’m talking about decentralized protocols. Not the data that goes over it.
You can spin up your own instance to ensure you have a custom username suffix. That’s literally all anyone needs to distinguish themselves from fake accounts. Trusting any org to remain a neutral authority is a mistake and a bigger risk than getting users to agree on an accurate source based on a suffix.
This is a neckbeard dream, and it is why activity pub will never take off.
Grandma ain’t running her own instance, but she can swipe her card and get “grandmahotstuff.com” tied to her ATproto DID.
As long as the did is maintained by a neutral org like let’s encrypt, and icann remains functional, it’s a superior model, as those orgs are now tied to the functioning of the internet itself.
Grandma’s not gonna need a unique suffix and if she does she’ll likely be the kind of person who can figure out how to get it done. Not everyone needs advanced functionality, just like not everyone needs a blue check.
I’m not trying to argue against your concerns but IMO you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Let me guess, you and/or your buddies are the trustworthy ones?