• GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
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    Just as planned - Amazon Execs who aren’t planning to rehire them anyway.

    They do this shit to cull you.

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      It’s sort of a strange approach, because this will leave you with the workers who can’t find employment elsewhere.

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        By the time that negative effect kicks in, the execs already cashed in their bonuses and are on their way out of the sinking ship

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        Executives do not see workers as people with skillsets. They’re numbers on a spreadsheet. And having ten highly paid workers quit “voluntarily” makes the numbers do good things.

        Actually, they’re not even numbers on a spreadsheet. They’re data points in a graph. Executives don’t have time to understand numbers, let alone people.

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          Executives do not see workers as people with skillsets.

          Ain’t that the truth. My company is thinking about replacing all of their technical staff with AI. That’s going to be utterly hilarious to watch from the sidelines.

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          Most companies are satisfied with adequate workers rather than diligent and empowered workers. The latter cost too much. This is a convenient way for Amazon to cull the crew without incurring bad PR. This is why it’s often a shitshow in offices and warehouses; because the workers with self esteem and motivation either get fed up and leave or are forced out. This is just a facet of Big Capitalism.

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        People exaggerate this claim. Amazon already accounted for some talent leaving and the benefits obviously outweighs the con. There is nothing strange.

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          This implies a level of intelligence they’ve never previously demonstrated.

          Can you cite the source?

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      That and executive ass covering, a way to avoid admitting to shareholders that they wasted their money on useless commercial real estate.

      It’s also shooting themselves in the foot. The first people to leave aren’t going to be the clock punchers, it will be the best and brightest who can easily find other jobs.

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        That’s a feature, not a bug.

        The best and brightest will challenge leadership. The shitty barely competent value engineer will say yes until they fuck up so bad they get promoted.

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        The first people to leave aren’t going to be the clock punchers, it will be the best and brightest who can easily find other jobs.

        Yes. But some of them are also the most expensive ones, so when they leave costs go down. And we all know “numbers must go up” (=cost must go down).

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          So you’re left with departments full of clock punchers who don’t have vision or leadership. If you want to kill your Golden Goose, that’s a good way to do it. The remaining departments full of drone followers aren’t going to be making you the exciting groundbreaking products that make you money.

          Of course then again I personally see value in employees, maybe business leadership does not or thinks they are all generic replaceable.

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            In my experience: the higher up the management chain, the higher the chance that they are just in for the bonuses - not for the company / industry. And those bonuses are always bound to these numbers which need to go up. When the numbers go down, these people are long gone.

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              You nailed it. look at their more recent announcements about execs not taking bonuses— they’re giving up bonuses for the coming year. I expect most of them to ‘pursue other interests’ but they’ll keep their bonuses, whatever team gets brought in to right the ship will then get screwed.

              Might also be ass covering- with a pre-emptive promise of no bonuses it may be harder to replace them…

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        Idk about the whole talk of having an excuse to shareholders, I don’t think shareholders look into hey these offices are sitting unused I demand an explanation I think they care how much profit the company making and what are future predictions of profit.

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          No, but it will bring into question the process by which they were acquired to begin with. Somebody will ask, why did you spend x billion on real estate when it was obvious that remote work was the future? Or if they are locked into a long-term lease, eventually the question will come up why are we spending all this money for office space we aren’t using? Shouldn’t we have thought of this earlier? Not having workers in the office makes it obvious that real estate was a bad investment, and many of these companies are pretty heavily invested in real estate. Easier to screw the workers with what can be explained away as a management strategy than admit a wasted a whole bunch of money buying and building and renovating space you don’t need.

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    I hope a significant number of them get new jobs and quiet quit to get that double paycheck for as long as they can.

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      I hope so too. Although the IT job market isn’t great right now, so I doubt the departures will reach a critical mass.

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    Google, Microsoft, hell even Netflix and Capital One, will be bending over backwards for this tech talent.
    Look at that Amazon east coast HQ in Virginia, just down the road from Capital One’s HQ. One of AWS’s biggest customers will bendfit from this.

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    Stupid, stupid Amazon. How did they not see this coming? It’s been a trend lately.

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        yup. how is that not obvious to anyone is beyond me… some of those workers have contracts that would require amazon paying severance in case they would just fire them like so many other companies do. better make them leave on their own.

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    Now they can replace them without paying unemployment and pay the new workers a lower wage. This is what they wanted to happen. Mega corporations are a problem we need to solve as a society.