• Radicalized@lemmy.one
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    Yea… the majority of the people in the military are just working class folk who wanted to go to school but couldn’t afford it.

    This childish “army man bad” mentality is the dumbest thing about my fellow lefties. Very few people in the military are there because they like killing people. For every dirt-munching, mouth breathing idiot there are a hundred cooks, janitors, stores distributors, technicians, mechanics, ect.

    You guys think when fascism comes to America that you’ll win by calling your fellow working class ‘genociders’?

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      Yea… the majority of the people in the military are just working class folk who wanted to go to school but couldn’t afford it.

      False.

      How affluent are enlisted recruits?

      Most members of the military come from middle-class neighborhoods. The middle three quintiles for household income were overrepresented among enlisted recruits, and the top and bottom quintiles were underrepresented.

      https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/demographics-us-military

      They are murderous volunteers of the most violent country in the world. Among the 248 armed conflicts that occurred in 153 regions across the world from 1945 to 2001, 201 were initiated by the US, accounting for 81% of the total number.

      There is no plausible deniability for this shit. Fuck you. Don’t “my fellow lefties” while spewing disgusting nationalism and supporting the US fucking military in my comm.

      And how the fuck do you think we REDUCE US military recruitment? By being nice about it? By telling them it’s actually ok that they’re in the biggest and most evil murder machine in the world? Fuck off. Even if some of them are naive morons the correct strategy to reduce the number of people joining the military is not to be fucking nice about it. It’s to create a culture of that being REPREHENSIBLE, which is easy because it fucking is.

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      ‘I want to go to school but can’t afford it’ isn’t a sufficiently good excuse to join the imperial murder machine.

      Also, without ‘cooks, janitors, stores distributors, technicians, mechanics’ the military wouldn’t function, so these people may never pull a trigger but they’re still complicit in the killing.

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      Yea… the majority of the people in the military are just working class folk who wanted to go to school but couldn’t afford it.

      We’ve heard this one a million times before. It’s not impressive. Everyone I know is working class and couldn’t afford school. None of them signed up to drop bombs on brown people for Raytheon stonks. Troops in the imperial core can pipe down, reeducate themselves, apologize for their direct and active participation in imperialism/colonialism, and get in line behind all their working class comrades as followers rather than leaders of the various liberation movements. If they want to be at the front of anything it can be at the front lines of the militant wing of the working class movement, contributing their combat skills to defending rather than attacking the workers. If they weren’t afraid to die for the burger reich then they shouldn’t be afraid to die for the working class. Then the rest of the working class can forgive them if they feel like it. But what happens more often than not is they are constantly engaging in this pick me ass behavior where they need to remind everyone what a small and innocent bean they were when they were tricked into dropping white phosphorous on iraqis or whatever. they are constantly holding their support hostage from the working class, whining about how the working class is too mean and alienating to them for calling them out, and how the rest of the working class should shut up and parrot the idea that they were “tricked.” The implication being that, if they don’t get their way, they’ll withhold support or join reactionaries instead. Good riddance!

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        If they want to be at the front of anything it can be at the front lines of the militant wing of the working class movement, contributing their combat skills to defending rather than attacking the workers. If they weren’t afraid to die for the burger reich then they shouldn’t be afraid to die for the working class.

        Strong point

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      there are a hundred cooks, janitors, stores distributors, technicians, mechanics

      Why aren’t they doing those jobs while not serving the world’s most evil imperialist machine? thinking-about-it

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      childish “army man bad” mentality

      wanted to go to school

      You are literally advocating for grown ass adults to go back to be kids in schools wtf

      my fellow lefties

      Said no working class comrade ever

      cooks, janitors, stores distributors, technicians, mechanics, ect.

      “I’m not a bad guy, I simply serve nazis and carry water to their holocaust centers”

    • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      yeah i know that ! the mentality of the people doing the crimes being guilty of the crimes , truly was a problem for my completly vibes based, non position-having - astetic leftism pretentions…

      So i grew out of them , Like people that join the Army do as well ,their main Job is to demonstrate that…

      "Ali !! dont target the Occupation Forces ! I just heard they have a COOK ! "

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      Talk to me when there’s a draft. If you willingly serve the war machine you’re no comrade of mine. Are cops working class comrades too? Or is it just the foreign oppression that you count as good working class people?